Divac says Cousins will not be traded= Kiss of death?

we've all seen it before, could Danny make the big splash BEFORE the draft and could Cousins be the big fish?

it IS possible.

first the cap rules:

For non-taxpaying teams (again, they must be under the tax level after the trade), the salaries that can be acquired depend on the total salaries the team is trading away:

Non-Taxpaying Teams


Outgoing salary

Maximum incoming salary

$0 to $9.8 million 150% of the outgoing salary, plus $100,0004
$9.8 million to $19.6 million The outgoing salary plus $5 million2
$19.6 million and up 125% of the outgoing salary, plus $100,000


with that in mind a three team trade as follows:

Boston trades:(total salary traded $10.3M)
Bradley ($7.2M)
Zeller ($1.7M)
Sullinger ($1.4M)
#16 pick this year
#45 pick this year
2016 Boston first round pick
2016 second round pick

Boston gets: (we can take back up to $5M more than we send out by rules above)
Cousins ($13.7M)

Kings trade:
Cousins ($13.7m)
Thompson ($6.0M)
Collison ($4.8M)

Kings get:
Lawson ($11.6M)
Faried ( $8M average salary die to extension signed)
Zeller ($1.7M)
#45 pick this year
2016 first round pick Boston

Denver trades:
Lawson ($11.6M)
Faried ($8M avg)

Denver gets:
Thompson ($6M)
Collison ($4.8m)
Bradley ($7.2M)
Sullinger ($1.4M)
#16 pick this year
2016 second round pick from Boston

kdp,

So, Boston can get Cousins without giving up an all-star player or a lottery pick?
Don't you think there are way better trades out there for Cousins?
I think if Boston also sent to Sacramento James Young and Brooklyn's 2016 1st round pick, Boston could have a more realistic conversation with Sacramento.

TJ,

actually the Kings get player they (Karl) wants in Lawson and Faried, they also get Zeller and a second this year (they have none) and a first next year (they have none).

Nuggets supposedly wants to rebuild and may have soured on Lawson and faried (even though his new deals kicks in this coming season).

I think the bigger question is would the Celtics be giving up too much for only Cousins coming back?

kdp59 wrote:TJ,

actually the Kings get player they (Karl) wants in Lawson and Faried, they also get Zeller and a second this year (they have none) and a first next year (they have none).

Nuggets supposedly wants to rebuild and may have soured on Lawson and faried (even though his new deals kicks in this coming season).

I think the bigger question is would the Celtics be giving up too much for only Cousins coming back?

I see this quite differently.
The Kings don't get the player they want in this trade.
They want to keep Cousins.
They would get Lawson who will be turning 28 when the season starts.
Avery Bradley and Sullinger are decent starters but players like them are common throughout the league.

I would think Sacramento would want a very good starter AND a top 5 lottery pick to discuss trading Cousins.
I'm not sure why people aren't believing Sacramento when they say Cousins is not being traded.
I would think Sacramento would have to be blown away by an offer in order for them to trade Cousins.

well if what Divac says is true, then you are corre4ct there will be no reason to trade him. thus the title of this thread.

but if the many rumors and George Karls history with big men is any indication, then Divac could be putting up a smoke screen to raise the offers he already has for Cousins.

frankly, I think it's just as likely that Cousins could end up on the Lakers in a mutli team deal.

but I do think IF Cousins is moved it will involve some of Karls old players at Denver including Lawson.

more rumors on Cousins

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--george-karl-pushing-for-kings-to-trade-demarcus-cousins-051748948.html


Kings coach Karl pushing team to trade DeMarcus Cousins, per reports

Sources: George Karl pushing for Kings to trade DeMarcus CousinsAdrian Wojnarowski By Adrian Wojnarowski
6 hours ago

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Despite Sacramento Kings management's public insistence that DeMarcus Cousins is unavailable in deals, coach George Karl's intense desire to trade the All-Star center has made it increasingly unlikely this coach-star partnership can peacefully co-exist next season, league sources told Yahoo Sports.

Karl has been recruiting Kings vice president of basketball operations Vlade Divac and multiple players on the Kings' roster to unite with him in making the case to owner Vivek Ranadive that Cousins needs to be traded, league sources said.


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Since the end of the 2014-15 season, Cousins has become aware of Karl's campaign to move him – including teammates telling Cousins, sources said. All around the Kings and Cousins, there is a growing belief the coach-player relationship is irreparable. Trust is a constant theme with Cousins, and he's been unable to build any with Karl, sources said.

No one in the Sacramento organization – not coaches, nor players, nor support staff – wants to imagine the combustible scenario awaiting Karl and Cousins should the Kings try to reunite them in training camp.

Ranadive has remained the biggest Kings advocate for holding onto Cousins, and several sources indicate he has become irritated with Karl's insistence that the coach doesn't believe he can manage the supremely skilled and strong-minded star. Cousins has held a firm loyalty to former Kings coach Michael Malone, whom Ranadive fired shortly into last season. Under Karl, that relationship couldn't begin to be duplicated in the final weeks of the season.

Karl and members of the Kings front office have made it clear to opposing team executives and coaches that they hope to soon have a formal ownership authorization to actively shop Cousins, sources said. Kings officials, including Karl, have discussed potential deals informally with other teams, but no other front office has felt comfortable that any deal can happen until Ranadive is fully on board.

For now, the Kings are pursuing trade scenarios for everyone on the roster, including talented forward Rudy Gay, league sources told Yahoo Sports.

Sacramento officials believe it will be difficult to find a trade partner that can give the Kings the value it wants for Cousins – and has a better chance to find a deal for Gay, sources said.

The Los Angeles Lakers have had significant interest with Cousins, but their No. 2 overall pick isn't as appealing to the Kings as finding a deal that includes established, veteran players. Ranadive doesn't want to rebuild with a move into a new arena on the horizon, and Karl is chasing Don Nelson's all-time NBA career victories record. Karl's interest isn't in cultivating long-term assets, but rather compiling as many victories as possible in the near future.

Most teams trying to trade into the lottery believe the Kings are determined to package the sixth overall pick to bring back veteran talent.

Gay signed a three-year, $40 million extension that starts with the 2015-16 season, a contract that has become even more palatable to teams with the sharp rise coming in the NBA salary cap. Gay has played well in his two-plus seasons with the Kings and remains a target of interest with multiple teams, front-office executives said.

Sacramento is motivated to find a way to create more salary-cap space with possible deals, something that the Kings will need to pursue Dallas Mavericks free-agent point guard Rajon Rondo, league sources said. The Kings and Rondo have a mutual interest, with Rondo intrigued with the idea of a potential one-year deal in Sacramento that could help to rebuild his league-wide value, sources said.