Boston Celtics trade rumors: Team offering Aron Baynes in trade to create cap space (report)

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Boston Celtics trade rumors: Team offering Aron Baynes in trade to create cap space (report)




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By John Karalis | JKaralis@masslive.com




The team Danny Ainge thought he was building has fallen apart, which means some of the players already on the team suddenly no longer fit.

One of those players is Aron Baynes, who just opted in to his $5.4 million player option for this season. According to ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski, the Celtics are now shopping Baynes in an effort to create cap space.


Adrian Wojnarowski

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Boston has offered center Aron Baynes -- $5.4M expiring contract -- into salary cap space elsewhere, league sources tell ESPN. Without Kyrie Irving and Al Horford on the books, moving Baynes without taking back salary could get the Celtics to $23M in space.

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If Boston makes this move without taking back salary, but also renounces the rights to all of their free agents, they can make two of their three draft picks and still create a max salary slot.


I’m not sure where Wojnarowski is getting the $23 million number but if the Celtics decided they wanted to hold onto Terry Rozier, they could still have $24 million to spend while making all three draft picks.

The sudden shift in strategy came suddenly for Boston, who saw Baynes as a critical piece to its defensive strategy. Lineups with Baynes and Horford together dominated defensively over the course of their Boston careers, but without Horford, Baynes became less of a fit.

It was also less of a fit from Baynes’ perspective. He has said repeatedly that he loves Boston, but he’d obviously like to win another title. If he knew this was coming, he probably wouldn’t have opted-in in the first place.

The NBA draft is tonight and it’s been reported that Boston doesn’t want three rookies on their team. It’s unclear whether this week’s developments have changed that, but the Celtics already seem active before everyone has finished their morning coffee, so this could be a wild ride today.



bob
MY NOTE:  I'm sitting in my hotel room in Aqaba, sorta peeking in from the outside occasionally, and I'm wondering WTF is going on!?  I go away on a little trip (ok, maybe 7 weeks isn't so little) and everything blows up!

If there's something good to be said about this it's that Danny is freeing up cap space for a reason.  He has a target in his crosshairs.

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could be with Baynes blessing here now.

NO bigs left soon enough

unless you really think the time lord will become an NBA player...and that's a BIG if for me.

oh well..Stevens has never used big men anyway and we all know Ainge can't draft one to save his life.

Maybe we'll get that all 6-6 to 6-8 team that Stevens and Ainge seem to want. Just as the NBA is going to back to teams winning WITH big men too.

should be an interesting night ,as Ainge try's to stay relevant . Making sure I have plenty of popcorn........and whiskey tonight!!

Eliminating our only true center and freeing up only 5 M is not a good idea at all.

Surely when Baynes decided to return to the Cs after the season ended did not make him a better player, but finding someone who does "fit" in for less money is not likely to happen.

This guy has proven to be a great value to the team for the last two years, and even though he starts many games he only plays back up center minutes.  He always plays hard, and has been very consistent. He has also been often credited by his coach and his teammates for his leadership which in Boston has to be very important in this time of turmoil.

Not that any player cannot be traded, but if he is traded that he brings back a quality player and not just leaves town as a salary dump. His decision to re-sign should not go unappreciated.

Like I said, Danny is in a frightfully desperate mood.

Well, if Aron goes and RW gets hurt, maybe the plan would be to resign Landry, have him be our center, and really go small ball.

Danny, please make us smile tonight. My fingernails can't take much more biting.

The more I think about this the easier it is to understand,  Aron is a solid rotation player for Boston but not and everyday starting center that can play 30 MPG

If Boston is planning on freeing up enough cap space to sign Orlando Center Nikola Vucevic I agree with that move.  He is a starting quality center and is 28 years old who turns 29 in October,  he is a 20/10 guy and average 3.8 assists last year.  Toronto was able to hold him below his season averages partly because the rest of the Magic squad struggled.  Given what is available in the FA market for centers he should be a target.  He is coming off a $12 million contract.  Since he is unrestricted it makes it easier to sign him

Boston will still need to add a long and athletic big from the draft.  Decide on the PG situation and add another distance shooter as we can always use a another shooter.

And not replace Aron with Landry? Ok Dboss. Signing Vuc makes sense.

worcester wrote:And not replace Aron with Landry? Ok Dboss. Signing Vuc makes sense.

Assuming they will renounce Morris, do they also have to renounce Rozier to open up the CAP space needed? If the answer is yes they could still go back and sign him but he will be unrestricted at that point and therefore the cost could be higher.

Does Boston even want to keep Terry after his off season comments?

bobheckler wrote:MY NOTE:  I'm sitting in my hotel room in Aqaba, sorta peeking in from the outside occasionally, and I'm wondering WTF is going on!?  I go away on a little trip (ok, maybe 7 weeks isn't so little) and everything blows up!

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OK, Bob, so this is all your fault.

At least now we know who is responsible for this mess.

My thought exactly, NYCelt.

Btw, notice how tensions have flared with Iran while Bob is in the MidEast. Coincidence?

Something tells me they won't beat the door down to acquire Aaron. He is a backup center that fit in as a starter with Al. Didn't play many minutes, not a big rebounder, not a big scorer, he is just big.

This makes it at least semi-official.  This is from Baynes. I'm going to miss him and, more importantly, I think the Boston Celtics will too.






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Really sad. I sure hope that freed up cap space brings us someone of Aron's character.

This trade was a big disappointment for me as a Cs fan. When a team is desperate for center play (and, quality character players) it makes little sense to dump this guy who was both for the Celtics in the two years he was in Boston.

Yes, he was injured some last season and even when not injured he was not a big minutes type of player (I often wondered why he did not play more minutes), but he brought quality toughness, defense, hustle and was never reported to be a team cancer type of player. And, for only $5 M he was clearly a guy who outperformed his contract's value in many ways.

If Ainge had to dump some salary, why is Yabusele still around? It would be easy to see how Baynes would contribute more in the next season than The Dancing Bear.

Yabu's continued presence on the Celtics is a scientific question now being pondered at MIT.

gyso wrote:I read that it was Baynes himself that requested the trade after hearing that Horford wanted to leave for more money, etc.

The article leaves out that fact, which has lead to more unwarranted Danny Ainge criticism.

Also, the article talks ignorantly about Baynes' opt in.  The truth is that the last time that Baynes had an opportunity to opt out with a player option, he lost money on his next contract.  Lesson learned, he was not going to repeat that mistake again.

I'll miss Baynes and his great approach to the game as much as the next guy, but let's not allow a poorly written article drive the discussion bus.

Just saying.

gyso do you have a source?  Who said Aron asked for a trade?   

It looks more to me like a salary dump that costs us Baynes and a pick.

It was reported during draft

gyso wrote:

dboss wrote:

gyso wrote:I read that it was Baynes himself that requested the trade after hearing that Horford wanted to leave for more money, etc.

The article leaves out that fact, which has lead to more unwarranted Danny Ainge criticism.

Also, the article talks ignorantly about Baynes' opt in.  The truth is that the last time that Baynes had an opportunity to opt out with a player option, he lost money on his next contract.  Lesson learned, he was not going to repeat that mistake again.

I'll miss Baynes and his great approach to the game as much as the next guy, but let's not allow a poorly written article drive the discussion bus.

Just saying.

gyso do you have a source?  Who said Aron asked for a trade?   

It looks more to me like a salary dump that costs us Baynes and a pick.

dboss,

I heard about the Baynes trade and the reason for it during the draft or the day after.

I keep seeing people dump on Ainge and in this case, it is based on fake facts.   I believe I commented on this already, but the false narrative continues.

Google is available to all, so the truth is out there.

gyso

[edit: I see where Kyle said he saw it reported during the draft, so that must be it.]

Thanks gyso

Funny how things can work out.  With Baynes gone Boston may be able to sign Walker.

gyso
gyso 

I still find no evidence that he asked to be traded.  I'm just saying.  It really appears that Boston moved him to free up cap space.  

I just do not buy the scenario that Baynes asked for a trade and Danny said great idea, and to make it happen let me throw in a first round pick.

gyso wrote:

dboss wrote:gyso
gyso 

I still find no evidence that he asked to be traded.  I'm just saying.  It really appears that Boston moved him to free up cap space.  

I just do not buy the scenario that Baynes asked for a trade and Danny said great idea, and to make it happen let me throw in a first round pick.

dboss,

Two people on this board said that they heard on draft night that Baynes asked for the trade.  Is that not enough for you?  Tell me, do you think both of us are lying?

gyso

https://985thesportshub.com/2019/06/20/aron-baynes-celtics-trade-rumors-nba-draft/

Matt Doloff is obviously lying.