Re: POST GAME MIAMI HEAT - HOME

by **Ktron** Wed May 12, 2021 7:16 pm

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I believe Miah Shrewsberry was the Defensive coach under Brad before he left for Penn State. As Irecall, Our D was pretty D good under Micah. Don’t know if Brad gave him full reign but whatever was going on back then worked!

by **Ktron** Wed May 12, 2021 7:23 pm

112288 wrote:Members have suggested a less toxic approach to fixing the Celtics problems then firing a coach. The new suggestion is to hire a defensive assistant coach. That seems to be a rational idea by preserving unity within the Celtic organization, and a boat load of cash on a buyout of Stevens contract if fired.

However, there are a lot of stars that need to alien in order for this new idea to succeed.

First and foremost, Brad has to accept the idea of adding a defensive coach. Not just a guy working in the gym on defensive strategies, but actually taking control of the team on D while Brad sits the F down and shuts up! Doc had this arrangement with Thibs. But then again, it was also Doc's last chance of staying a head.

Second, the Big Three era offensive was not a laissez faire, do what you want style. Even on offense, the Celtics were in position early to prevent a break away or a quick transition by the other team with fast breaks that normally is hard to defend and breaks down defenses. Can this new D coach rein in Brad and his offensive strategy by positioning players while on offense while also preventing fast transitional offensives from their opponents?

Third, can Brad even accept a D coach in the mold of Thibs? Or for that matter a D coach at all?

If all of you remember, Thibs was co-coach, not assistant coach. I remember that clearly because at the time I found it to be odd. Can Stevens accept a co-coach?

This now brings me to #4.

Fourth, If Brad is such a great coach and is not trying to just make the play-offs but actually take a run at the Title #18, why has he not hired a great defensive strategist in the past? It is common sense that you would if all of you were the head coach. Unless Brads style is a run and gun offensive style and to hell with defense...we will just out score our opponents.

Fifth, there is a lot to be said in Traditional Chinese Medicine about Yin and Yang play a role in healing and curing ailments . As defined, in Ancient Chinese philosophy, yin and yang is a concept of dualism, describing how seemingly opposite or contrary forces may actually be complementary, interconnected, and interdependent in the natural world, and how they may give rise to each other as they interrelate to one another.

The problem with the Celtics is their Yin and Yang or Offensive and Defense are out of Sync! Let that settle in your heads for a minute while you also reflect on why Doc and Thibs were so successful together! Brad has to buy in completely into a D coach and allow him to run the plays while we are on defense, or like this year our Yin and Yang will be out of Sync again!

112288

I believe Miah Shrewsberry was the Defensive coach under Brad before he left for Purdue now at Penn State. As Irecall, Our D was pretty D good under Micah. Don’t know if Brad gave him full reign but whatever was going on back then worked![/quote]
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by **Ktron** Wed May 12, 2021 7:46 pm

dboss wrote:112288 has cut through all the BS and hit the damn nail on the head.

Do I really think Brad's time has come and gone for this team? Yes I do but Danny, the head architect of this dumpster fire is not going to ask for his resignation. And nice guy Brad Stevens is loyal but also delusional if he believes this team can somehow be the new "best version of themselves"

If he wants wants to make a big contribution to the future of the Boston Celtics he should step aside.

Suggestions and agreements about adding a defensive minded coach for this team that would have authority is not going to happen. Brad has staffed this team with coaches that don't cut it.

Brad is an offensive coach but he has never put together a complete offense and he does not have a skilled PG to even run what has become the most predictable offense in the NBA.

This team needs a new direction all around. We need an offense that includes the utilization of a center than can score in the post. We need an offense that uses the proven tactic of fast break basketball as a weapon and not as an afterthought.

We need a coach that will discipline our best player when he misses a shot and than heads back on defense in slow motion. We need a coach that will discipline a guy who repeatedly is a day late and a dollar short on covering his assignments. We need a coach that will not be outcoached.

There is not much room to ignore what has become obvious.

We need a new coach and a new coaching staff.

Maybe it’s Danny Ray Ainge who Gaveith and tookith away from Brad, maybe he should be the one who gets his skates!?

by **cowens/oldschool** Wed May 12, 2021 9:59 pm

Ktron wrote:
cowens/oldschool wrote:Wow just read Kendrick Perkins said the same thing I just said about Smart....

Except he didn’t say the game has “passed him by”. I agree with a lot of what you and Perk said but With all due respect, the game has not hardly passed Marcus Smart by. No even close by.

Well I think otherwise, the list is too long of young 3rd and 4th year players like Terry Rozier and Colin Sexton that give their team so much more firepower, they can go off for 28 or 30 plus or more. A bad game for them is 14 or 16, which is a good game for Smart and there’s a lot more of those kind of up and coming players. If we are healthy and everyone is at top of their game, then we don’t need offense from Smart, but that’s very rare for this team this year. Our defense has dropped as everyone has noticed and we don’t generate enough points very often too. Right now Rozier impacts winning a lot more than Smart. Herro, Robinson and Dragic sure got little resistance from Smart.

by **Ktron** Wed May 12, 2021 11:18 pm

cowens/oldschool wrote:
Ktron wrote:
cowens/oldschool wrote:Wow just read Kendrick Perkins said the same thing I just said about Smart....

Except he didn’t say the game has “passed him by”. I agree with a lot of what you and Perk said but With all due respect, the game has not hardly passed Marcus Smart by. No even close by.

Well I think otherwise, the list is too long of young 3rd and 4th year players like Terry Rozier and Colin Sexton that give their team so much more firepower, they can go off for 28 or 30 plus or more. A bad game for them is 14 or 16, which is a good game for Smart and there’s a lot more of those kind of up and coming players. If we are healthy and everyone is at top of their game, then we don’t need offense from Smart, but that’s very rare for this team this year. Our defense has dropped as everyone has noticed and we don’t generate enough points very often too. Right now Rozier impacts winning a lot more than Smart. Herro, Robinson and Dragic sure got little resistance from Smart.

Smart never been known for his offense. We don’t expect firepower from him. As you implied he's a defensive specialist. Has he slipped on occasions? Sure. Has he turned the ball over? Sure but who on this team hasn’t. I don’t disagree with you that he sometimes plays out of his role but to say the game has passed him by is a stretch in my opinion.

by **worcester** Thu May 13, 2021 12:15 am

worth repeating -

JT said coach K was a leader. He said coach k was demanding and did not tolerate bad play. He said he would run through a brick wall for him. he said coach K was a leader. He said Brad was an X's and O's coach.

by **cowens/oldschool** Thu May 13, 2021 5:34 am

Ktron wrote:
cowens/oldschool wrote:
Ktron wrote:
cowens/oldschool wrote:Wow just read Kendrick Perkins said the same thing I just said about Smart....

Except he didn’t say the game has “passed him by”. I agree with a lot of what you and Perk said but With all due respect, the game has not hardly passed Marcus Smart by. No even close by.

Well I think otherwise, the list is too long of young 3rd and 4th year players like Terry Rozier and Colin Sexton that give their team so much more firepower, they can go off for 28 or 30 plus or more. A bad game for them is 14 or 16, which is a good game for Smart and there’s a lot more of those kind of up and coming players. If we are healthy and everyone is at top of their game, then we don’t need offense from Smart, but that’s very rare for this team this year. Our defense has dropped as everyone has noticed and we don’t generate enough points very often too. Right now Rozier impacts winning a lot more than Smart. Herro, Robinson and Dragic sure got little resistance from Smart.

Smart never been known for his offense. We don’t expect firepower from him. As you implied he's a defensive specialist. Has he slipped on occasions? Sure. Has he turned the ball over? Sure but who on this team hasn’t. I don’t disagree with you that he sometimes plays out of his role but to say the game has passed him by is a stretch in my opinion.

His strength is as a post defender that can take on multiple players/positions in the post, we are getting lit up by young shooters out on the perimeter, his impact there is minimal. I am curious as to who is going to get his all defensive spot this year, with our teams defensive numbers/ratings so off this year, I don’t see how he retains that spot....in this era you go against certain teams, Blazers, Warriors, Nets, Heat you need a lot of firepower, to match theirs, we need a lot more offense out of his position.

by **112288** Thu May 13, 2021 7:40 am

Ok guys and gals,

First Smart is no where near finished. I think what Perkins was doing with his comments about Smart was to get the other Celtics to look at themselves and their own play.

I mean Smart? The guy ran through brick walls for us, covered guys 6 inches taller and was very effective in doing so. Ever since Smart hurt his leg, he has not been as aggressive on the floor. Perhaps he is playing through his injury.

However, Smart is no shooting guard. He is either hot or cold, but his D is his calling card!

If I was in Danny's shoes....and I am glad I am not given how the team has performed this year, this is what I would do next year. Move Smart to the bench!

Between Fournier, PP and Smart, you now have one hell of a second team taking the floor. In closing seconds of a game when we need some lock down D that is when you bring Smart in as well.

So lets stop piling onto Smart, I wish the rest of the Celtics had his guts and drive!

112288

by **worcester** Thu May 13, 2021 9:42 am

112288, you took the words right out of my mouth.

by **dboss** Thu May 13, 2021 10:35 am

I refuse to criticize Smart other than his pipe dream of being a big time 3 point shooter.

I do not think he should be starting because he is not a high quality SG. I suppose his pairing with Walker helps on the defensive end.

Danny's decision to either lock up Fournier a non-defender but an above average offensive weapon or resign Marcus. Theis would still be on this team if the owners were willing to dip their toes into the luxury tax pool.

let's continue...

And the owners would not have a tax concern if Danny did not overpay to get Kemba

The financial structure of this team is screwed up as of today because of the absurd contract.

yes there are a lot of issues with this team beyond a coach whose team tunes him out...

pick a pain point... touch anywhere and you will whither with hurt.

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