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Post by 112288 Thu Feb 09, 2023 7:49 am

Don't look now, but Durant has been traded to PHX.

The Nets reportedly will receive Mikal Bridges, Cam Johnson, Jae Crowder, four first-round draft picks and a pick swap for Durant and T.J. Warren.

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Post by dbrown4 Thu Feb 09, 2023 9:40 am

And I thought the 2nd round of the EC playoffs was going to be tight! DEN, DAL, LAC, MEM, PHX, GSW and LAL. Three don't make it. One is easy. But who are the other two?!! Inquiring minds want to know!

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Post by cowens/oldschool Thu Feb 09, 2023 10:45 am

Suns are fully loaded right now

Paul Booker Durant Ayton, shoot I could be the 5th piece on that team and they could still win….

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Post by dboss Thu Feb 09, 2023 11:44 am

Of note to me is the fact that in both the trades (Dallas and Phoenix) they did not move an allstar level player. That is because neither team had one to move.

The Suns now have the top starting 5 in the West. Paul will need to stay healthy and some of the deep rotation guys will have to step up to a more prominent role. The Suns are looking to win this year.

Dallas now has 2 high end offensive players. Unfortunately neither of them can play defense.



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Post by gyso Fri Feb 10, 2023 1:28 pm

DURANT TO PHX Scree404

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Post by bobheckler Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:09 am

https://www.yahoo.com/news/actually-kevin-durant-trade-worst-220558010.html


Actually, the Kevin Durant trade is the worst in Arizona sports history


Phil Boas, Arizona Republic

Fri, February 10, 2023 at 9:18 PM PST·5 min read



The state of Arizona is on a week-long bender hosting the Super Bowl and Phoenix Open, and now getting news of the blockbuster trade for Kevin Durant.

One of the greatest NBA players of all time is suiting up with the Phoenix Suns.

That’s not just news – that’s free beer and rum on tap for every sports fan in the Valley. That’s a bacchanal that won’t be seeing straight for the next several weeks.

That’s why I’m here. I’m your designated driver.


Analysts love the Kevin Durant trade

Someone needs to stay sober while all the Kevin Durant excitement moves from hoopla to hype to cultural takeover.

“Phoenix is on fire right now,” Charles Barkley said.


The oddsmakers in Las Vegas are picking the Suns to win the NBA Western Conference and challenge the Boston Celtics or Milwaukee Bucks for the title.

Much to learn:New Suns owner Mat Ishbia's trial by fire

All across sports media, analysts are handing out As and A-pluses to the Suns for electrifying the league with their spectacular trade.

That’s not the letter grade I give the hometown team. I give them an “F” and not for “failed.”

For “faceplant.”


It may be the worst trade in Arizona history

This may be the worst trade in Arizona sports history, and that’s a very high bar.

This is the city that traded pitcher Max Scherzer and three other players to the Detroit Tigers for Ian Kennedy and Edwin Jackson. You may have heard of Scherzer. He went on to win three Cy Young Awards, pitch two no-hitters and win a World Series.

What qualifications do I – an editorial page columnist – have to judge the Suns trade?

I’ll show you my qualifications: Fifty years of suffering. Fifty years of watching Arizona arenas become the Leisure World for aging superstars.

We have done this so many times before it has become almost seasonal, the thing we do along with Thanksgiving and Christmas.

We roast the turkey, we hang the mistletoe and we sign a beyond-his-prime sports legend to ride his last big contract into the sunset.


We have a long line of past-prime superstars

The Arizona Cardinals did this with Emmett Smith, the great Dallas Cowboys running back. He came here when he was 33. He retired at age 35. In between he broke his shoulder blade.

J.J. Watt, the hulking defensive lineman with the Houston Texans became a Cardinal at 32. He retired at 33. He was injured much of the time he was here.

In 2011, the Cardinals signed Todd Heap, a great NFL tight end. His tank was nearly empty. He played two-injury plagued seasons before he was released in 2012.

The Arizona Diamondbacks signed World Series legend Madison Bumgarner past his prime for $85 million. He has never returned to his former glory.

Some will say, what about Charles Barkley? He played a lot of good years in Philadelphia, then came to Phoenix and transformed the Suns. Charles Barkley was 29 when he came to Phoenix. He retired with the Houston Rockets at 36.

Kevin Durant is 34. He has a recent history of injuries and many missed games. Though paired recently with two other superstars, he was not able to get the Brooklyn Nets beyond the Eastern Conference playoffs. The Brooklyn triad was a bust.


Phoenix Suns have mortgaged their future

On Thursday, we learned the Phoenix Suns traded Mikal Bridges, Cam Johnson, Jae Crowder and unprotected first-round picks in 2023, 2025, 2027 and 2029 for the superstar Durant and former Suns draft pick T.J. Warren, who has been injury prone his entire NBA career.

Mikal Bridges and Cam Johnson were exceptional draft-day additions. Both have soared well above expectations. At age 26, with many prime years to go and maturity well beyond their years, both are cornerstones you can build a team upon.

They not only perform at a high level, but they help set the tone in the locker room. They are valuable athletes and exceptional human beings, and to understand how deeply their loss is felt in the Suns organization, watch the clip of Suns coach Monty Williams talk about their departure.

He does so with real sadness: “Those two are near and dear to my heart. They literally are like my family.”

Four unprotected first-round draft picks? Talk about living for today and the future be damned.


Now we have neither defense nor depth

These are the prices you pay for a 28-year-old Durant, not an injury-prone 34-year-old.

The Phoenix Suns are one tendon tear from auctioning off their next decade. If Durant declines quickly like Heap and Watt and Baumgartner, the Suns will be far diminished from what they were before the trade.

Many say you have to go for it when a championship window opens. But if the Suns have learned anything over their last two years of success, the NBA playoffs are an endurance test. You better go with defense and depth.

The Suns now have neither. They may remedy that in the free market, but why are we to believe that Durant, Devin Booker and Chris Paul (not even the same Chris Paul he was two years ago) will fare better than Durant and Kyrie Irving and James Harden?


I hope I'm wrong about all of this

This is not a screed about the new Suns owner, Mat Ishbia. He’s a highly accomplished athlete and businessman with a passion for NBA basketball. I like that he’s the new owner. But I think he made a rookie mistake.

If I’m wrong and the Durant-led Phoenix Suns hoist the Larry O’Brien Championship Trophy, I will gladly eat this column with the same enthusiasm and tangy barbecue sauce that Billy Bob Thornton used to eat the Massey prenup. (See Coen Brothers, “Intolerable Cruelty”.)

But I’m not wrong.

I’m 50 years of cold, hard Arizona sports reality staring you in the face. And I’ve got the keys to your car.


Bob
MY NOTE:  "We mortgaged our future!" is the same cry we heard in the summer of 2007 when we traded for KG.  Don't hear much from those people anymore, do we?  The future is always now in sports.  Injuries, expiring contracts and the whimsies of overpaid and coddled athletes compel it to be so.  Phoenix now has a Big 4 of Durant, Booker, CP3 and Ayton.  

"Old age and treachery will overcome youth and skill." - David Mamet.  That's what happened last year in the Finals to us.  Phoenix just leapfrogged that speed bump.



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Post by gyso Sat Feb 11, 2023 9:24 am

I had the national broadcast with Doris Burk. When the other guy spoke "enthusiastically" about one trade or another, she put the water hose to him. She had a couple points:

Teams on paper: Weren't we just anointing the Nets as the odds on favorites to win it all just a couple weeks ago? That team no longer exists.

Prior history: Teams that are put together through the draft (organically?) have a better overall result than those that combine aging all-stars. She mentioned the outlier '08 Celtics who won one time and then injuries took away the rest.

She said a lot more, but her message was more along the lines of "Let's wait and see."

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Post by NYCelt Sat Feb 11, 2023 9:41 am

Doris Burke makes a good point, and she often does.

Geezer ball has seldom produced significant results, and unsurprisingly, never long term.
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