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Isaiah Thomas and the Celtics got the ball rolling with an intrasquad scrimmage. Brian Babineau/NBAE/Getty Images
Chris Forsberg, ESPN Staff Writer




BOSTON -- When the Boston Celtics huddled at center court following the team's annual open practice for season ticket holders on Tuesday night at TD Garden, a "Let's Go Celtics" chant broke out from the basketball-hungry fans that filled much of the lower bowl in order to simply get an early glimpse at this year's squad.

But, with the Celtics back at TD Garden for the first time since their playoff ouster in April, it felt a bit like pushing "play" again after last season ended with the Garden faithful chanting the same message as the Cleveland Cavaliers finished off a four-game sweep of Boston. There's hope that a new season brings an opportunity for these Celtics to take the next step in their progression after tantalizing their fan base with last season's second-half surge to the postseason.

The Celtics brought back 10 players from their playoff roster, but look a little different now. That much was obvious when rookie Terry Rozier, the team's top pick in June's draft, took the mic after the team's scrimmage ended. After thanking fans for coming, Rozier casually added that fans might "cheer us on to a championship this year." Standing nearby, Brad Stevens wore an "Oh, rookie" smile as the crowd roared in response. Stevens won't discourage his team from dreaming big, even if he's cautioned his team repeatedly about the thin line last season's squad walked between being the seventh seed in the East and toiling in the lottery.

Just four days into training camp, Stevens' focus at the moment is on simply determining the lineups and rotation that he will deploy this season. The Celtics, who added veteran big men David Lee and Amir Johnson this summer, seemingly got deeper, but there's no obvious answer to how to mix and match the available talent.

Scrimmaging for 24 minutes on Tuesday night, Stevens was hopeful that a blurry picture would come more into focus.

"We have to find the right combinations for our team. I think that’s the No. 1 thing," said Stevens. "We have a lot of guys that are very capable. But just like anything else, sometimes guys don’t fit great. Sometimes guys do. The sooner that we can find it, the better. I’ve got thoughts in my mind on how certain guys will fit. We’ve got data on how certain guys will fit that have been here. But with a new team and a new season, it’s good to see it all live early on."

Stevens said the team uses its data and projections as a general guide, but acknowledges that it also must pass the eye test.

"I believe some of [the lineup data] because it just makes a lot of sense. And then you look at some of it and you say, ‘Really!?’" said Stevens. "Either way, I think that that’s why you have to go through it and watch film and not get too caught up in smaller samples, those type of things. For the most part, any grouping that we had at the end of last year will look better, right, because we were winning and it may be affected. Guys that were here longer may be more affected. It’s just the way it goes. Again, you just look at what you can. And right now I’m not really overly influenced any which way yet."

For Tuesday's intrasquad scrimmage, the Celtics rolled out a Green team that featured a starting lineup of Isaiah Thomas, Jae Crowder, Jonas Jerebko, Kelly Olynyk and Amir Johnson; and a White team that countered with Marcus Smart, Avery Bradley, Evan Turner, Tyler Zeller and David Lee.

Read into those pairings what you will, but Stevens cautioned against overthinking them. The third-year coach has pledged to shuffle his players early in camp, especially the team's overstocked frontcourt, before settling on a more firm rotation by the time the Celtics open preseason play next week in Milan.

Nothing was decided at the open scrimmage, but the 24 minutes of 5-on-5 action gave us our first glimpse into how things might start to unfold. Here's four thoughts from the night:

• Olynyk works overtime: Maybe the biggest bright spot of the night for Boston was the play of an aggressive Olynyk. Seemingly aided by his recent FIBA appearance with the Canadian national team, a pony-tailed Olynyk didn't have the rust that some of his teammates displayed and played, offensively, without the hesitation that has hindered him early in his pro career. Olynyk scored 10 points in the first four minutes of the scrimmage and was the game's leading scorer while leading Green to a 63-59 win over White.

What's more, while many Celtics players signed autographs while headed back to the locker room after the scrimmage, Olynyk wandered into the loge seating behind the Boston bench and was the last Boston player to exit after signing autographs and snapping photos.

• Knee-jerk reactions: Some other hasty takeaways from the scrimmage: It wouldn't be a surprise to see Thomas and Johnson on the floor together a lot this season. They're a dangerous combo in the pick-and-roll, especially when you put spacers/shooters like Olynyk and Jerebko next to them. Noted Stevens: "I think simple is probably better with [Thomas] on the floor. I think spacing and getting the ball up the floor and having shooters around him [works best]. I’ve said that a couple of times. As we look at our bigs and our combinations, that’s going to be important.”... The Green team looked an awful lot like last season's second unit that helped Boston claw its way to the postseason. Some of those players will draw heavy consideration for starting roles, but you can't blame Stevens if he tries to keep that familiar mix of players together often. ... Jones, fighting for a roster spot, had an up-and-down performance. He hit consecutive 3-pointers early in his first shift to raise some eyebrows, but he had some defensive lapses and a couple airballs later to remind you that more consistency is needed in his play. ... Sullinger was an early sub for White and played plenty of minutes. While his play and conditioning will be overanalyzed because a big early camp storyline has been his summer workouts with John Lucas in Houston, it was hard to get a good read on Sullinger's play Tuesday. The good: He spent more time around the basket and didn't settle for 3-pointers. The bad: He didn't immediately distinguish himself the way someone like newcomer Johnson did. ... Stevens spoke to reporters before the scrimmage, but he summed up his rookies' play to this point -- including Tuesday's 5-on-5 action -- when he stated, "They’ve all had moments. And probably not as consistently as some of the guys that have been there and done that. But they’ve all had some real moments. And that’s just part of it. They have a lot going on in their minds right now." ... Jerebko, who you'll remember nearly elevated to a starting role towards the end of last season, had a nice night, too. Swedish Larry Bird connected on four 3-pointers, taking advantage of opportunities created by the Thomas/Johnson pick-and-roll combo.

• IT in the spotlight: The final introduction for lineups is typically reserved for the team's biggest star. For what it's worth, on Boston's star-less roster, Isaiah Thomas earned that distinction when the full squad was introduced before Tuesday's scrimmage (what's more, second-year guard Marcus Smart was the second-to-last player called out).

• Boston always loves a Pierce: The Celtics welcomed Make-a-Wish visitor Brooklyn Pierce to Tuesday's open scrimmage. After signing him to an honorary contract, Pierce was saluted at midcourt between scrimmages. Thomas came out to snap a picture and, in a nice moment, the entire Celtics roster soon surrounded Pierce for a group photo.



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MY NOTE: The pick-and-roll is going to be a big recurring play for us this year. Both Amir and Lee are excellent pnr players. If Rozier wants minutes the best thing he could do is to play his sticky defense and work the pnr with the bigs (or take and hit the elbow J if that's what the defense gives him).


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Post by bobheckler Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:01 am

MY NOTE:  These are in the order I find them, NOT in the order they happened...


Marc D'Amico @Marc_DAmico
Starting lineups:
Green - Thomas, Crowder, Jerebko, Johnson, Olynyk
White - Smart, Bradley, Turner, Lee, Zeller
4:25 PM - 29 Sep 2015
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Sam Packard @WEEICeltics
White: Smart, ET, Zeller, Lee, Hunter, Sully, AB, PJ3.

Green: Rozier, IT, KO, Amir, Jonas, Jae, Young, Mickey
4:12 PM - 29 Sep 2015
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Mark Murphy @Murf56
What will become a familiar sight - Thomas passing out of a double team and hitting Amir Johnson rolling to the rim.
5:06 PM - 29 Sep 2015
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Jay King ✔ @ByJayKing
Also, Amir Johnson has looked good as a roll man for Isaiah Thomas. Just slammed one home after Thomas drew two defenders, dumped it off.
5:07 PM - 29 Sep 2015
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Adam Himmelsbach @AdamHimmelsbach
Nine points in less than 4 minutes for Kelly Olynyk so far. No MVP chants yet but it's early.
4:30 PM - 29 Sep 2015
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Jared Weiss @CLNS_JaredWeiss
And someone besides Avery Bradley takes a shot for the white team. #Celtics
4:29 PM - 29 Sep 2015
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Jessica Camerato @JCameratoNBA
Undersized Rozier shows tough defensive effort against Sullinger.
4:32 PM - 29 Sep 2015
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Marc D'Amico @Marc_DAmico
Isaiah Thomas just showed off his one-foot, Steve Nash-esque jumper for the first time. Drained it.
4:34 PM - 29 Sep 2015
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Chris Forsberg @ESPNForsberg
Consecutive 3-pointers for Perry Jones III. When will the #KeepPJ3 hashtag start trending?
4:39 PM - 29 Sep 2015
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Jay King ✔ @ByJayKing
After a lazy Evan Turner turnover, Mickey runs the floor to finish and and-1 from Terry Rozier. Also, David Lee sure can pass the rock
4:39 PM - 29 Sep 2015
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Adam Himmelsbach @AdamHimmelsbach
James Young clunks a 3-pointer off backboard, gets ball back, drives and converts a tough reverse layup.
4:47 PM - 29 Sep 2015
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Adam Himmelsbach @AdamHimmelsbach
Nice start for Jordan Mickey, couple plays after hitting a jumper, goes up and swats Marcus Smart at the rim.
4:50 PM - 29 Sep 2015
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gary washburn ✔ @GwashburnGlobe
Jonas Jerebko with his fourth 3-pointer, hasn't been talked about much in camp but is fighting for playing time #celtics
4:50 PM - 29 Sep 2015
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Sam Packard @WEEICeltics
Hot damn Terry Rozier is quick. He missed the lay up, but his speed is impressive
4:51 PM - 29 Sep 2015
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Adam Himmelsbach @AdamHimmelsbach
The green team is really into this one. Isaiah, Amir and Crowder are on the bench standing, clapping and yelling on like every good play.
4:51 PM - 29 Sep 2015
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A. Sherrod Blakely ✔ @SherrodbCSN
David Lee is a much better passer than I thought, especially when he's grabbing rebounds and starting the fast break. #celticstalk
5:02 PM - 29 Sep 2015
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Jay King ✔ @ByJayKing
Hunter quick-release three off a handoff. "Bang," one of his teammates shouted before it swished. Then Rozier hit his second three.
5:03 PM - 29 Sep 2015
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Boston Celtics ✔ @celtics
That's a wrap on open practice! The Green team takes down the White team, 63-59.
5:23 PM - 29 Sep 2015
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MY NOTE:  Only a 3 period scrimmage, ergo the low score.



gary washburn ✔ @GwashburnGlobe
Green 63, White 59, Final. Who impressed? Jerebko, Jones, Olynyk, Jordan Mickey. #Celtics
5:25 PM - 29 Sep 2015
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Adam Himmelsbach: David Lee says a Brad Stevens practice very similar to Steve Kerr and is impressed by detail – via Twitter AdamHimmelsbach


Scott Souza: #Celtics forward Jared Sullinger said first day of camp was easier this season after his summer in John Lucas Camp. – via Twitter scott_souza




Adam Himmelsbach
@AdamHimmelsbach 12 hours ago
Biggest takeaway from tonight's Celtics scrimmage is that the distribution of minutes is really going to be fascinating.

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Adam Himmelsbach
@AdamHimmelsbach 14 hours ago
Terry Rozier to crowd: "Hopefully y'all can cheer us on to another championship this year." Crowd of about 2,000 chanting "Let's go Celtics"

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ay King
@ByJayKing 14 hours ago
Amir Johnson just defended Evan Turner pretty perfectly in a scramble situation, forced a brick. Green ahead 61-55 with 25 seconds left.

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Jay King
@ByJayKing 15 hours ago
RJ Hunter is a brave man. Just tried to take a charge on Jae Crowder.

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Mark Murphy
@Murf56 15 hours ago
Olynyk's shooting has been sharp.

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James ToscanoVerified account
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Not yet, but when the time comes we're gonna give R.J. Hunter the nickname "Big Game" Hunter for obvious reasons.
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Jay King
@ByJayKing 15 hours ago
Another airballed three from Perry Jones. He's still 2-for-4, I think, but both misses have been baddddd.

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Jay King
@ByJayKing 15 hours ago
Perry Jones drives baseline, finishes over a contest. Has done some good things.

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Jay King
@ByJayKing 15 hours ago
Whoa. Rozier super fast in transition after a Turner make, but his bank shot rattles out.

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A. Sherrod Blakely
@SherrodbCSN 15 hours ago
#Celtics just completed second, 8-min qtr: Standouts: Bradley 6 pts. Jerebko 6 pts. Rozier 5 pts. Crowder 5 pts. #Celticstalk

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Jay King
@ByJayKing 15 hours ago
Evan Turner blows by James Young to draw the foul at the rim.

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A. Sherrod Blakely
@SherrodbCSN 15 hours ago
First 8 minute quarter is over. Standouts: Olynyk 10 pts; Turner 7 pts; Jones III: 6 pts. #Celticstalk

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Mark Murphy
@Murf56 15 hours ago
Double team by Terry Rozier forces Sullinger into an offensive clear-out foul.

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Adam Himmelsbach
@AdamHimmelsbach 15 hours ago
Jared Sullinger the first sub of the game, in for Zeller on white.

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Mark Murphy
@Murf56 15 hours ago
Amir Johnson hits 18 footer over Zeller.

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Mark Murphy
@Murf56 16 hours ago
Big difference for Smart between his rookie training camp and now: "It’s hard to be vocal when you don’t know what you’re talking about."

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Jay King
@ByJayKing 17 hours ago
More Stevens praise for Johnson's D: "his mind is excellent for defense and he really prioritizes it. And then his motor is extremely high."

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Marc D'Amico
@celtics 17 hours ago
Brad Stevens on Marcus Smart: "He's continuing to get better at the offensive end... It's just about picking his spots."

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Marc D'Amico
@celtics 17 hours ago
Perry Jones says that he has already played the 2, 3 and 4 positions during camp.

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Jay King
@ByJayKing 19 hours ago
Seriously, nobody has truly lived until he's seen Darren Erman run defensive drills.

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Post by rambone Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:22 am

I'm glad Brad kept IT4, Crowder, Jerebko, and Olynyk together. Those guys were off-the-charts good together last year.

The "green" team could easily be our starting 5, those guys plus Amir Johnson. Or Brad could switch out Crowder for Smart.

Or the "green" team could come off the bench, and once again be the strength of this team despite not starting.

In the fourth quarter, like last year, we'll be seeing a lot of those guys on the court together down the stretch.

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Post by rambone Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:23 am

My guess is that Sully and David Lee will be battling for the last big in the regular rotation.

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Post by rambone Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:42 am

Here's some scrimmage highlights

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Post by Matty Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:06 pm

rambone wrote:Here's some scrimmage highlights


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