The Lakers could select Dragan Bender

worcester wrote:Au contraire TJ. Methinks there are lots of head games, feints and maneuvers to hype interest in one player over another. Think Danny vs. the Nets a few years ago. But I speak strictly as an uniformed, complete outsider. Sort of like the Donald, but without the comb over.

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tjmakz wrote:

arambone wrote:

tjmakz wrote:

arambone wrote:

tjmakz wrote:

bobheckler wrote:

tjmakz wrote:

wideclyde wrote:If the Lakers are actually considering taking Bender in the second spot there has to be something more about this guy than what seems to have been posted on our forum at least so far.

I have certainly not seen enough of any of these so-called picks, but what I have read about Simmons leads me to think that there could be other teams also thinking that Bender (and maybe some other guys, too) may possibly get consideration for one of the top picks.

This thought process would help increase the value of the Cs third pick.  All it will take is one surprise in the top two spots and the third pick could then become one of the supposedly 'best' two guys for the third pick.

Position-wise, for the Cs, I have liked Ingram more than the other guys, but what the heck do I know?

One guy writing a pretty weak article about the Lakers and Bender does not mean the Lakers are considering drafting him #2.

We will know more about Bender when he comes to the US for workouts.

I would bet money that the Lakers will draft Simmons or Ingram.

TJ,

For whatever my 2c are worth, I think the Lakers will either trade the pick for a high quality player/all-star or pick one of those two.  Not unless Jim Buss has given up all hope of keeping his job.  There is no way the Lakers faithful will sit through 3 years of watching Bender grow while the Lakers continue to struggle.  Buss needs to make a splash and he needs to make it soon and he knows it.


bob


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I agree with you Bob.

Bender is just not a better prospect compared to Simmons and Ingram.
In my opinion, it's not even close.
I don't think Sacramento, Indiana or Chicago will give up players the Lakers want, so the odds are the Lakers will make the pick.

I think Bender would be a steal for the Lakers at #2. You're selling this kid short. Check out draft express for an idea of how good this kid would be for the Lakers' rebuild.

Who is a better prospect to you, Bender or Thon Maker?
I think you have Thon in your group 1 or at the top of your group 2.
Maker man crush...

Maker's the better prospect. The same herd of groupthinkers declaring that Bender is a great athlete are the same herd of groupthinkers that declared that Thon Maker is an average athlete with small hands.

Maker is a much better athlete than Bender, and when combined with his ball handling and length it's an elite combination.


This whole thing just goes to show what a joke the mock draft guys are.

Maker has Hall of Fame potential, easily, and could be one of the greatest of all time.

Maker is everything anybody would want in the ideal futuristic draft prospect, except college experience.

That little detail just throws everybody off, makes scouting him harder, and people resent Maker for making their job harder.

Your man crush for Maker is pretty incredible.
He could be one of the greatest of all time?
Ok, if you say so...
I bet Danny goes against your wishes and does not draft Maker with the #3 pick.

cowens/oldschool wrote:

tjmakz wrote:

arambone wrote:

tjmakz wrote:

arambone wrote:

tjmakz wrote:

bobheckler wrote:

tjmakz wrote:

wideclyde wrote:If the Lakers are actually considering taking Bender in the second spot there has to be something more about this guy than what seems to have been posted on our forum at least so far.

I have certainly not seen enough of any of these so-called picks, but what I have read about Simmons leads me to think that there could be other teams also thinking that Bender (and maybe some other guys, too) may possibly get consideration for one of the top picks.

This thought process would help increase the value of the Cs third pick.  All it will take is one surprise in the top two spots and the third pick could then become one of the supposedly 'best' two guys for the third pick.

Position-wise, for the Cs, I have liked Ingram more than the other guys, but what the heck do I know?

One guy writing a pretty weak article about the Lakers and Bender does not mean the Lakers are considering drafting him #2.

We will know more about Bender when he comes to the US for workouts.

I would bet money that the Lakers will draft Simmons or Ingram.

TJ,

For whatever my 2c are worth, I think the Lakers will either trade the pick for a high quality player/all-star or pick one of those two.  Not unless Jim Buss has given up all hope of keeping his job.  There is no way the Lakers faithful will sit through 3 years of watching Bender grow while the Lakers continue to struggle.  Buss needs to make a splash and he needs to make it soon and he knows it.


bob


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I agree with you Bob.

Bender is just not a better prospect compared to Simmons and Ingram.
In my opinion, it's not even close.
I don't think Sacramento, Indiana or Chicago will give up players the Lakers want, so the odds are the Lakers will make the pick.

I think Bender would be a steal for the Lakers at #2. You're selling this kid short. Check out draft express for an idea of how good this kid would be for the Lakers' rebuild.

Who is a better prospect to you, Bender or Thon Maker?
I think you have Thon in your group 1 or at the top of your group 2.
Maker man crush...

Maker's the better prospect. The same herd of groupthinkers declaring that Bender is a great athlete are the same herd of groupthinkers that declared that Thon Maker is an average athlete with small hands.

Maker is a much better athlete than Bender, and when combined with his ball handling and length it's an elite combination.


This whole thing just goes to show what a joke the mock draft guys are.

Maker has Hall of Fame potential, easily, and could be one of the greatest of all time.

Maker is everything anybody would want in the ideal futuristic draft prospect, except college experience.

That little detail just throws everybody off, makes scouting him harder, and people resent Maker for making their job harder.

Your man crush for Maker is pretty incredible.
He could be one of the greatest of all time?
Ok, if you say so...
I bet Danny goes against your wishes and does not draft Maker with the #3 pick.

what about the Kelly O mancrush? damn 2 timer

arambone wrote:

cowens/oldschool wrote:

tjmakz wrote:

arambone wrote:

tjmakz wrote:

arambone wrote:

tjmakz wrote:

bobheckler wrote:

tjmakz wrote:

wideclyde wrote:If the Lakers are actually considering taking Bender in the second spot there has to be something more about this guy than what seems to have been posted on our forum at least so far.

I have certainly not seen enough of any of these so-called picks, but what I have read about Simmons leads me to think that there could be other teams also thinking that Bender (and maybe some other guys, too) may possibly get consideration for one of the top picks.

This thought process would help increase the value of the Cs third pick.  All it will take is one surprise in the top two spots and the third pick could then become one of the supposedly 'best' two guys for the third pick.

Position-wise, for the Cs, I have liked Ingram more than the other guys, but what the heck do I know?

One guy writing a pretty weak article about the Lakers and Bender does not mean the Lakers are considering drafting him #2.

We will know more about Bender when he comes to the US for workouts.

I would bet money that the Lakers will draft Simmons or Ingram.

TJ,

For whatever my 2c are worth, I think the Lakers will either trade the pick for a high quality player/all-star or pick one of those two.  Not unless Jim Buss has given up all hope of keeping his job.  There is no way the Lakers faithful will sit through 3 years of watching Bender grow while the Lakers continue to struggle.  Buss needs to make a splash and he needs to make it soon and he knows it.


bob


.

I agree with you Bob.

Bender is just not a better prospect compared to Simmons and Ingram.
In my opinion, it's not even close.
I don't think Sacramento, Indiana or Chicago will give up players the Lakers want, so the odds are the Lakers will make the pick.

I think Bender would be a steal for the Lakers at #2. You're selling this kid short. Check out draft express for an idea of how good this kid would be for the Lakers' rebuild.

Who is a better prospect to you, Bender or Thon Maker?
I think you have Thon in your group 1 or at the top of your group 2.
Maker man crush...

Maker's the better prospect. The same herd of groupthinkers declaring that Bender is a great athlete are the same herd of groupthinkers that declared that Thon Maker is an average athlete with small hands.

Maker is a much better athlete than Bender, and when combined with his ball handling and length it's an elite combination.


This whole thing just goes to show what a joke the mock draft guys are.

Maker has Hall of Fame potential, easily, and could be one of the greatest of all time.

Maker is everything anybody would want in the ideal futuristic draft prospect, except college experience.

That little detail just throws everybody off, makes scouting him harder, and people resent Maker for making their job harder.

Your man crush for Maker is pretty incredible.
He could be one of the greatest of all time?
Ok, if you say so...
I bet Danny goes against your wishes and does not draft Maker with the #3 pick.

what about the Kelly O mancrush? damn 2 timer

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