Celtics may have to give up more than initially expected to acquire Anthony Davis

Celtics may have to give up more than initially expected to acquire Anthony Davis

WEEI - Nick Friar

Even before David Griffin was running the show in New Orleans, everyone knew it was going to take a lot for the Celtics, or anyone else, to land Anthony Davis. He’s one of the best players in the NBA, that’s how it works.

However, the Pelicans’ asking price had been up in the air throughout the entire process. That is, up until ESPN’s latest report from Adrian Wojnarowski — and New Orleans is asking for a king’s ransom.

Woj reports Griffin “is pursuing a combination of assets that include an All-Star player, a young player with All-Star potential and two first-round picks.”

That means the Celtics would more than likely have to give up Jayson Tatum or Jaylen Brown (though the Pelicans reportedly prefer Tatum) and Gordon Hayward to make the deal work, along with two picks from this year’s draft — because Woj’s report also states Griffin is looking to get the deal done before this year’s draft on June 20.

The Lakers (third pick overall) and Knicks (fourth pick) are still in contention with their higher picks and Griffin reportedly willing to work on a “sliding scale” when it comes to the assets he’s looking for in the deal. But the Celtics seem to have the advantage, should they want to make the move.

But is this move in the Celtics’ best interest anymore?

If Griffin is set firmly on getting the deal done before the 2019 NBA Draft, the Celtics should not make the trade if Hayward and Tatum are both required to get the deal done. It’s too much of a risk with Kyrie Irving’s future being up in the air — unless, of course, the Celtics know something we don’t.

Should Boston make this move and Irving doesn’t re-sign, the team’s “Big 3” for 2019-20 will be Davis, Brown and Al Horford, with uncertainty surrounding Davis’ future past next season.

This move seems less and less appealing for the Celtics by the day. Too many “ifs.” (Which adds credence to their reported pursuit of Rockets center Clint Capela.)

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As i stated many times in the past 2 months or so, Danny is no dope and he works strategic quiet deals like he has done in the past for KG and Allan. The Houston deal for Capela makes sense and less assets would be used.

I would tell NOH's GM to stick it with his demands. Perhaps Danny is sucking the LAL into making a stupid Deal! What ever the case, looking elsewhere make a whole lot of sense then the Davis deal.

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112288 wrote: What ever the case, looking elsewhere make a whole lot of sense then the Davis deal.

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Agreed.

I've said before that I don't think Ainge has any intention of trying to trade for Davis. I still see no reason why he would make a trade that would probably gut the roster.

We do not have an Allstar player on the roster other than KI and that nay change in a few weeks

This is where having draft assets gives Boston more options. Boston does not have an allstar to trade and Danny will be sharply criticize if he moves Smart and with Tatum or Brown. He would be run out of town if all 3 were included.

Boston will end up having to part with 3 1st rounders to make this deal imo. Danny is not stupid enough to part with our 3 best young players.

The risk associated with a Davis trade remains high. Danny checking on the availability of Capela is the clearest indication that an athletic front line defender and rebounder is a top priority for the Celtics

wait!!!

are you telling they will take on Haywards max contract in a deal?

then YES please!!!!!!


shake hands as fast you can Danny.........no brainer

my only question is why does this writer think that Hayward is an NBA ALL-STAR???

LOL

kdp59 wrote:
my only question is why does this writer think that Hayward is an NBA ALL-STAR???

LOL

No idea.

Because before his injury he was. Time will tell, he may or may not return to all star form. Hopefully he does and makes things easier to deal with.

Key info to read and understand:

From last January:

Multiple league sources have said Boston’s gaze remains focused squarely on Pelicans superstar Anthony Davis — but the Celtics cannot trade for Davis this year, because teams cannot acquire two players via trade who have signed designated player rookie extensions. (Kyrie Irving already became the first.)

Nothing's changed.

The Celtics cannot trade for Davis before draft day, or any other day before July 1st (actually after 12:01 PM on July 6 when the July Moratorium ends).  Kyrie has to opt out first, THEN a trade for Davis can be made.

Article after article try to line up a pre-draft trade for the Celtics to land the Pelican big man, but it ain't gonna happen.  File this under, "Pipe Dreams that just waste your time."

Important dates:

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q120

120. What are the important CBA-related dates each season?

The following dates are referenced in the CBA, starting with July 1, which is the first day of the salary cap year. Any deadline which falls on a Saturday, Sunday or federal holiday is extended to the next business day.

July 1

Salary cap year begins

July Moratorium begins (see question number 105)
Salary cap adjusts (see question number 12)
Luxury tax threshold adjusts (see question number 18)
Salaries adjust
Exceptions arise (see question number 25)
Free agents become free. Teams can negotiate with free agents
Unrenounced free agents, scale amounts for first round picks playing outside the NBA, and roster charges are applied to team salary (see question number 13).
Poison Pill provision expires (see question number 91)
Rookie scale contracts can be signed (see question number 47)
A second round draft pick can accept a required tender
A restricted free agent can accept a qualifying offer or maximum qualifying offer (see question number 42)
A restricted free agent can sign an offer sheet (see question number 42)
Minimum salary contracts can be signed (see question number 22)
Teams may apply for a Disabled Player exception (see question number 25)
Free agents can be renounced (see question number 39)
Two-Way players can be signed (see question number 82)
Two-Way contracts can be converted to standard contracts (see question number 83)
Contracts with Exhibit 10 can be converted to Two-Way contracts (see question number 83)
Salary can be paid for the upcoming season (see question number 115)

July 6 (12:01 PM)

July Moratorium ends (see question number 105)
Teams can sign unrestricted free agents and make trades
Contracts can be renegotiated (see question number 59)
Contracts can be extended (see questions number 58)

This is why you just cannot believe all these stories. Some of these writers are not even writers, the are jus like you and me, people with opinions.

Thanks for clearing this up

except the Nets and the Hawks ANNOUNCED a deal that will happen AFTER the new NBA year starts already.

and that happens all the time.

IF NO wants to do the deal on or before draft night , they WILL and it will become "official" after the new NBA year, just like the Nets trade.

this has happened many times in past years as well, it won't stop a deal being made.

Ainge may love Davis as a very talented player that he is, but trading equal salaries is not worth it until Davis agrees to sign a long term deal.

Even if their salaries matched up, I would not trade Tatum by himself for one year of Davis.

wideclyde wrote:Ainge may love Davis as a very talented player that he is, but trading equal salaries is not worth it until Davis agrees to sign a long term deal.

Even if their salaries matched up, I would not trade Tatum by himself for one year of Davis.

Ditto

cowens/oldschool wrote:

wideclyde wrote:Ainge may love Davis as a very talented player that he is, but trading equal salaries is not worth it until Davis agrees to sign a long term deal.

Even if their salaries matched up, I would not trade Tatum by himself for one year of Davis.

Ditto

agreed BUT

Hayward, Brown and #14 pick for Davis I would do.

even if he leaves after one year, we just cleared a max contract off our roster, along with Horford's expiring deal...that equals CAP space in 2020.

something to consider.

kdp,

Your trade proposal is likely to bring back additional salary that may clog Boston's cap for more than just one year. Hayward and Brown will be around $35 M while Davis is less for next season.

wideclyde wrote:kdp,

Your trade proposal is likely to bring back additional salary that may clog Boston's cap for more than just one year.  Hayward and Brown will be around $35 M while Davis is less for next season.

actually looks more like $43M with the draft pick added.

so Davis and  E. Moore add up to $35.7 which i  think works for cap rules, Moore is on an expiring deal also.

regardless , that post was more of a joke , as they don't want Hayward, even if some here think he's an NBA all-star or not.

we're stuck with him, I hope he starts to earn that max contract soon.