updated hoopshype aggregate mock draft

https://hoopshype.com/2019/06/11/mock-draft-draft-stock-top-prospects-early-entry-deadline/


a gauge of where players are falling on various mock drafts online right now. Some other info and bios at the link as well.

PLAYER AGG RANK NBADraft ESPN The Athletic Bleacher The Ringer Rookie Wire
Zion Williamson 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
Ja Morant 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
RJ Barrett 3 3 3 3 3 3 3
Darius Garland 4 5 4 4 4 4 6
De'Andre Hunter 5 4 5 6 6 6 4
Jarrett Culver 6 7 6 5 8 5 5
Coby White 7 6 7 7 7 7 7
Cameron Reddish 8 8 8 8 5 8 8
Sekou Doumbouya 9 13 9 9 10 9 13
Jaxson Hayes 10 12 10 10 9 14 9
Nassir Little 11 11 11 13 13 15 15
Brandon Clarke 12 20 14 11 12 11 14
Rui Hachimura 13 14 12 12 11 23 12
PJ Washington 14 18 13 18 14 10 11
Goga Bitadze 15 17 19 14 15 19 10
Romeo Langford 16 24 15 16 16 12 18
Nickeil Alexander-Walker 17 16 18 20 26 16 16
Tyler Herro 18 21 16 15 20 18 22
Bol Bol 19 15 20 26 17 17 20
Kevin Porter 20 26 22 25 18 13 19
Mfiondu Kabengele 21 10 17 17 19 30 32
Keldon Johnson 22 22 23 22 22 27 23
Matisse Thybulle 23 29 24 24 21 21 21
Cameron Johnson 24 32 21 23 23 24 24
Grant Williams 25 34 32 29 24 20 26
Luka Samanic 26 27 30 19 25 36 30
Nic Claxton 27 19 31 28 42 17
KZ Okpala 28 23 25 21 29 38 35
Bruno Fernando 29 9 37 40 28 34 27
Ty Jerome 30 31 26 30 29 33
Dylan Windler 31 28 35 39 22 41
Daniel Gafford 32 25 40 33 46 25
Carsen Edwards 33 33 34 32 28 42
Eric Paschall 34 36 28 27 47 34
Chuma Okeke 35 38 41 31 27 39 29
Talen Horton-Tucker 36 46 33 38 26 31
Luguentz Dort 37 47 27 36 25 40
Darius Bazley 38 51 29 35 35 36
Isaiah Roby 39 40 38 41 30 37 46
Nazreon Reid 40 30 49 48 49 28
Terence Davis 41 39 34 31 39
Louis King 42 43 50 37 33 45
Admiral Schofield 43 58 36 42 44 38
Jalen McDaniels 44 42 56 57 32 44
Jontay Porter 45 60 42 49 45 37
Shamorie Ponds 46 46 55 40 43
Jalen Lecque 47 49 48 46 56 52
Deividas Sirvydis 48 44 44 41
Terance Mann 49 37 43 51
Tremont Waters 50 45 45 55
DaQuan Jeffries 51 43 51 59 55
Zach Norvell 52 55 43 50
Jaylen Nowell 53 50 47 53
Zylan Cheatham 54 52 53 48
Miye Oni 55 57 51 53 54
Ignas Brazdeikis 56 59 50 51 56
Adam Mokoka 57 45 50
Moses Brown 58 35
Jaylen Hoard 59 56 55 47
Tyler Cook 60 39
Tacko Fall 61 41 59
Jordan Bone 62 44 57 60
Brian Bowen 63 52 56
Kris Wilkes 64 48
John Konchar 65 48
Charles Matthews 66 49
Alen Smailagic 67 58 58 57
Sagaba Konate 68 53 60
Yovel Zoosman 69 60 54 60
Dedric Lawson 70 52
Cody Martin 71 52
Justin Robinson 72 53
Jaylen Hands 73 54
Quinndary Weatherspoon 74 54
Vanja Marinkovic 75 54
Justin Wright-Foreman 76 57
Oshae Brissett 77 58
Jordan Poole 78

using this as a gauge, I would select as follows:

14- T. Herro OR PJ Washington

20. M. Kabengele

22. Cam Johnson, if Herro is the 14th pick
or
Keldon Johnson if Washington is the 14th pick.

Used the aggregate mock to make a consensus mock draft. Picked in order, using the mocks as a vote for a selection. If a tie on a vote, used the higher rated player in the aggregate mock. Obviously, if a player is picked earlier, can’t have him multiple times in the mock. For instance, Little would have been the pick at 11 and 15. He could only be at 11.

Celtics draft:
14: Brandon Clarke
20: Nickeil Alexander-Walker
22: Keldon Johnson

1: Pelicans - Zion Williamson
2: Grizzlies - Ja Morant
3: Knicks - RJ Barrett
4: Lakers - Darius Garland
5: Cavs - Jarrett Culver
6: Suns - DeAndre Hunter
7: Bulls - Coby White
8: Hawks - Cam Reddish
9: Wizards - Sekou Doumbouya
10: Hawks - Jaxson Hayes
11: Wolves - Nassir Little
12: Hornets - Rui Hachimura
13: Heat - PJ Washington
14: Celtics - Brandon Clarke
15: Pistons - Goga Bitadze
16: Magic - Romeo Langford
17: Hawks/Nets - Bol Bol
18: Pacers - Tyler Herro
19: Spurs - Kevin Porter Jr
20: Celtics - Nickeil Alexander-Walker
21: Thunder - Matisse Thybulle
22: Celtics - Keldon Johnson
23: Jazz - Cam Johnson
24: Sixers - Grant Williams
25: Blazers - Daniel Gafford
26: Cavs - Luka Samanic
27: Nets - Nic Claxton
28: Warriors - KZ Okpala
29: Spurs - Bruno Fernando
30: Bucks - Mdiondu Kabengele

I would take Kabengele at 14 if Sekou is gone and and Cameron Johnson at 20

Kabengele reminds me of Serge Ibaka, and Johnson shoots like Klay.

At 22, take your pick.

Wikipedia reports that Francis Galton, a 19th century English statistician,
“was a keen observer. In 1906, visiting a livestock fair, he stumbled upon an intriguing contest. An ox was on display, and the villagers were invited to guess the animal's weight after it was slaughtered and dressed. Nearly 800 participated, and Galton was able to study their individual entries after the event. Galton stated that "the middlemost estimate expresses the vox populi, every other estimate being condemned as too low or too high by a majority of the voters", and reported this value (the median, in terminology he himself had introduced, but chose not to use on this occasion) as 1,207 pounds. To his surprise, this was within 0.8% of the weight measured by the judges. Soon afterwards, in response to an enquiry, he reported the mean of the guesses as 1,197 pounds, but did not comment on its improved accuracy. Recent archival research has found some slips in transmitting Galton's calculations to the original article in Nature: the median was actually 1,208 pounds, and the dressed weight of the ox 1,197 pounds, so the mean estimate had zero error.”
The New Yorker essayist James Surowiecki retells Galton’s tale in his book, The Wisdom of Crowds, to support his hypothesis that “The averages of multiple guesses is usually better than the best individual guess,” and that there is indeed wisdom in crowds. Basketball scouts are just such a crowd, and they too make guesses as to what players are good prospects. I say draft for need based upon who has the highest composite rating, and if our need is above the 14th pick, trade up.

Worcester, in that case, get the 5th or 6th pick to take Coby White or Darius Garland

Kyle, what a beautiful thought. Hope Danny can swing it.

Meawhile, Fultz would have driven statisticians crazy with his underperformance. Ditto Michael Bennett. Greg Oden. I guess fairgoers weren't concerned if the bull were injured.

worcester wrote:Kyle, what a beautiful thought. Hope Danny can swing it.

Meawhile, Fultz would have driven statisticians crazy with his underperformance. Ditto Michael Bennett. Greg Oden. I guess fairgoers weren't concerned if the bull were injured.

I’d guess most likely scenario would be if the Suns weren’t sold on White as a PG, Garland was taken at 4, and they like Alexander-Walker. That swap would be, White at 6 for Alexander-Walker at 14 + other assets. NAW would still be a good choice in terms of need and maybe value at 14 if the Cs picked for themselves

I do not think Boston needs to go that high to draft a PG. Either Kyrie signs and Terry goes or visa versa. In either case we have a starting PG.

Therefore crowd logic dictates that the Celtics # 1 need is located in their front line and not their backcourt.

Further, Danny's ill advised (at this time) pursuit of Anthony Davis along with rumors about his interest in Clint Capela, illustrates that Danny knows he must upgrade his front line.

dboss wrote:I do not think Boston needs to go that high to draft a PG.  Either Kyrie signs and Terry goes or visa versa.   In either case we have a starting PG.

Therefore crowd logic dictates that the Celtics # 1 need is located in their front line and not their backcourt.

Further, Danny's ill advised (at this time) pursuit of Anthony Davis along with rumors about his interest in Clint Capela, illustrates that Danny knows he must upgrade his front line.

I agree with that...and his name is Marcus Smart!!

If it’s frontcourt depth we need then 14 should be fine.

dboss wrote:I do not think Boston needs to go that high to draft a PG.  Either Kyrie signs and Terry goes or visa versa.   In either case we have a starting PG.

Therefore crowd logic dictates that the Celtics # 1 need is located in their front line and not their backcourt.

Further, Danny's ill advised (at this time) pursuit of Anthony Davis along with rumors about his interest in Clint Capela, illustrates that Danny knows he must upgrade his front line.

would you take a flyer in Bol at 14, if you were keeping all the picks?

I know you've said the foot injury is a no, but he could be a game changer on defense in a year or two...or a bust.

7-7 wingspan can't be taught.

if I was certain they could still get Kabengele later in the draft, I think I;d look hard at Bols Medicals

kdp59 wrote:

dboss wrote:I do not think Boston needs to go that high to draft a PG.  Either Kyrie signs and Terry goes or visa versa.   In either case we have a starting PG.

Therefore crowd logic dictates that the Celtics # 1 need is located in their front line and not their backcourt.

Further, Danny's ill advised (at this time) pursuit of Anthony Davis along with rumors about his interest in Clint Capela, illustrates that Danny knows he must upgrade his front line.

would you take a flyer in Bol at 14, if you were keeping all the picks?

I know you've said the foot injury is a no, but he could be a game changer on defense in a year or two...or a bust.

7-7 wingspan can't be taught.

if I was certain they could still get Kabengele later in the draft, I think I;d look hard at Bols Medicals

Bol could be there at 20 or 22.

kdp59 wrote:

dboss wrote:I do not think Boston needs to go that high to draft a PG.  Either Kyrie signs and Terry goes or visa versa.   In either case we have a starting PG.

Therefore crowd logic dictates that the Celtics # 1 need is located in their front line and not their backcourt.

Further, Danny's ill advised (at this time) pursuit of Anthony Davis along with rumors about his interest in Clint Capela, illustrates that Danny knows he must upgrade his front line.

would you take a flyer in Bol at 14, if you were keeping all the picks?

I know you've said the foot injury is a no, but he could be a game changer on defense in a year or two...or a bust.

7-7 wingspan can't be taught.

if I was certain they could still get Kabengele later in the draft, I think I;d look hard at Bols Medicals

kdp59

I thought about Bol. He has skills, I just think Boston should avoid red flag injury questions. I would not touch him at #14. I do not think Kabengele will be there at 20. If Sekou is gone, I am taking Kabengele. If PJ Washington was 6' 10" I would not mind taking him but the last thing this team needs is another 6' 8" PF.

I haven't seen Bol fall that far in any mocks to date, but I suppose one never knows.

Rob Williams was considered a top 10 pick last year, at least early on in mocks drafts.

IF Bol would fall to #20, I think I'd have to take him there for sure. He has dropped to #19 in the aggregate ranking above.

so maybe if your are correct dboss, I would take Kabengele at 14 then.

14- Kabengele
20- Bol
22- Cam Johnson or Keldon Johnson

I guess that would be my picks in that case...at least right now.

Bol is available at 20 on 3 of the hoops hype aggregate mocks above and the new nbadraft.net mock.

KyleCleric wrote:Bol is available at 20 on 3 of the hoops hype aggregate mocks above and the new nbadraft.net mock.

I just saw the new draftnet mock

https://www.nbadraft.net/2019mock_draft


they have the Celtics taking Kabengele at #14.

https://www.nbadraft.net/players/mfiondu-kabengele

Bol all the way down to 25 now

https://www.nbadraft.net/players/bol-bol

Cam Johnson at 28

https://www.nbadraft.net/players/cameron-johnson

The have us taking:
14: Mfiondu Kabengele
20: Brandon Clarke
22: KZ Okpala
51: Talen Horton-Tucker
That’s a lot of athleticism. I’d be surprised if THT was not taken by the end of the 30s.