Simmons Moves to PF

In an effort to find a better mix coach Brown is moving Ben to PF and inserting SG Shake Milton into the staring lineup as the point guard.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29456646/76ers-coach-brett-brown-thrilled-ben-simmons-power-forward-early-practices.

I guess PF do not have to make jump shots

That would pit our very own JT in a matchup with Simmons. although I do not think we will see them in round one.

After dropping 3 straight to the Sixers the Jays torched them with 57 points between them

I'm liking the Horford decision more and more, and ,as I have previously expressed, Simmons limitations lessen his value, no matter what kind of numbers he puts up. When he , Al, and Joel are on the floor together, they feature three power forwards. No bueno.

I think it is the right idea of how to use this team but I am not sure that they have the right personnel. Simmons needs elite shooting around him. Milton has been pretty good in the little bit he has played this year, though the two of them do not have a lot of minutes together. Perhaps they should limit the minutes that Embiid and Richardson play with Simmons.

Simmons' speed and size make him a good fit at PF with Embiid and Milton on the floor. Simmons' lack of outside shooting will matter a lot less. 6ers will sure be strong around the basket.

It’s a superstar wing oriented league, you have superstar wings, you win. So what Simmons is playing PF...??? their wings don’t cut it. Embid is like Patrick Ewing, he doesn’t have enough help. Simmons still has way too many flaws in his game, he’ll never be close to a Bird/Lebron type that can carry a franchise. He’s closer to an Antoine Walker.

cowens/oldschool wrote:It’s a superstar wing oriented league, you have superstar wings, you win. So what Simmons is playing PF...??? their wings don’t cut it. Embid is like Patrick Ewing, he doesn’t have enough help. Simmons still has way too many flaws in his game, he’ll never be close to a Bird/Lebron type that can carry a franchise. He’s closer to an Antoine Walker.

Cow,

I think Simmons to 4 is a great move.

He has no game outside of 10' (so I REALLY don't understand your comparison to 'Toine who was asked why he takes so many 3s and he famously responded "because there are no 4s") but is an excellent ball handler. Let him rebound and go full court and they become a much quicker team. He'll struggle physically on defense, perhaps, but will outrun a lot of 4s on offense too.


bob


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I believe that Simmons will still be the guy running their offense. I do not think they will look all that different because they do not have a playmaker other than Simmons in their lineup.

The key to beating this team is about stopping Embid. I think you can double off Simmons to stop Embid.

bobheckler wrote:

cowens/oldschool wrote:It’s a superstar wing oriented league, you have superstar wings, you win. So what Simmons is playing PF...??? their wings don’t cut it. Embid is like Patrick Ewing, he doesn’t have enough help. Simmons still has way too many flaws in his game, he’ll never be close to a Bird/Lebron type that can carry a franchise. He’s closer to an Antoine Walker.

Cow,

I think Simmons to 4 is a great move.

He has no game outside of 10' (so I REALLY don't understand your comparison to 'Toine who was asked why he takes so many 3s and he famously responded "because there are no 4s") but is an excellent ball handler.  Let him rebound and go full court and they become a much quicker team.  He'll struggle physically on defense, perhaps, but will outrun a lot of 4s on offense too.


bob


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Bob was not comparing their games, on Toine was just looking at their overall effectiveness and impact, I don’t see Simmons having near the game or impact of Jaylen this year, who should have been an all star over Simmons IMHO. Toine was a 3 time all star, I really don’t think Simmons game impacts winning anymore than what Toine did, both flawed players that did some good things. If I’m a GM I take an Aaron Gordon or a Caris Lavert over Simmons. Lavert a much better scorer/shooter, possibly a better initiator as he doesn’t bog down an offense because you can leave him to double others cause he can’t shoot for shit, and Gordon who’s not considered a great shooter, but compared to Simmons he sure is and does better dirty work and defense as a 4. Has Simmons game improved at all, barely...??? he’s a big reason their offense has so many problems. He makes a couple nice drives/dunks within a game, but so did Toine.

These moves will either play out to be the greatest of all time and the 76er's will win the championship or they will start off ala Buster Douglas and maybe sweep the first round or knock off the Bucks and then return to to the imploding train wreck we've all been anticipating.

You can put lipstick on a pig, but in the end, it's still a pig. Have to admire them for the shake up. By my tone you can probably tell it's too little too late.

db

dbrown4 wrote:These moves will either play out to be the greatest of all time and the 76er's will win the championship or they will start off ala Buster Douglas and maybe sweep the first round or knock off the Bucks and then return to to the imploding train wreck we've all been anticipating.  

You can put lipstick on a pig, but in the end, it's still a pig.  Have to admire them for the shake up.  By my tone you can probably tell it's too little too late.  

db

Love the Buster Douglas analogy.

A move to power forward should have Simmons putting up numbers similar to Indiana's Sabonis - as both are quite close in the stat line. The move to power forward should have Simmons improving on rebounds and droppping in assist.While the front court should be improved it's quite questionable as to how Simmons replacement will do at the point. But like dboss says - Simmons could simply become a point forward. We shall see.

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