POST GAME NOP - AWAY

More like a grandmother's man now. But still trucking.

I’m friends with both your son and daughter in law on FB....somehow became friends with your first wife, but didn’t know that was her until later when saw pics and the kids were referring to her as Grandma. Then saw pics of her when she was young, what a babe as is your yoga loving daughter in law!!! We have similar tastes buddy, you are blessed!!

This was the worst loss of the year, by far.  We were up 24 points halfway through the 3rd against a sub-.500 team.  

Remember the "good" ol' days when we bragged about our 3 big players and worried about our bigs and our bench?  We shot 40% as a team, and that's because of the efficacy of the bench, NOT the starters.

The Js and K shot 22-68, 32.3%.  What compounds that is they also took 69% of the team's total fgas.  They hogged the ball and missed awfully.

Tatum took one fga in OT, and missed.  He also had 2 ftas, missed both.

Kemba took 3 fgas in OT, all 3, and missed all 3.

Jaylen took 3 fgas in OT, 1 of them a 3 which he missed, 1 of them was a 2 which he made and was 3-3 from the line.  5 points in OT for Jaylen.  Not bad, but not particularly overwhelming either.

This means our top 3 scorers were 1-7 in OT.

In the 4th quarter, which saw our 13 point lead after 3 drop to 0 (we actually were behind but mini-rallied to get into OT):

Jayson was 3-8 for 9 points.
Kemba was 1-6, that one being a 3.
Jaylen was 3-3.

Just a quick recap of how freaking useless they were as our lead evaporated.  Why did it evaporate?  Well, I read an article recently in which an anonymous NBA player said it was easy to defend against the Celtics.  I believe it.  We are a team of ME-ballers.  Jayson is given the ball; dribble, dribble, dribble, shoot (usually a 3).  Jaylen gets the ball; dribble, dribble, dribble, shoot (usually a drive).  Kemba gets the ball; dribble, dribble, dribble, dribble, dribble, dribble, dribble and then shoot a 3 or drive and get stuffed.  There's not much ball movement, there's no side-to-side, the defense gets to hunker down and wait for us.  Also, since they know we don't have a ballhandler who can break a press, as soon as Tatum and Kemba go near the sideline they immediately throw a double-team at them, pinning them against the sideline.  Because they're ME-ballers they're late to pass the ball.  At best the shot clock goes down to almost nothing and we have to be grateful for whatever shot gets thrown up or we have a turnover.  NOP picked up a couple of fouls because they were a little too aggressive on the doubles, and they blocked Tatum, but that didn't stop them from doing it again and again and he still didn't learn that the double was coming and he should get rid of it before they close the trap door shut.

Brad has let them run wild.  I fully realize that this is what NBA coaches do with their stars.  Frank Vogel doesn't tell LeBron what to do, but LeBron is a 4X champion and 4X league MVP.  Tyronn Lue doesn't tell Kawhi what to do, for the same reasons, same with Budenholzer and Giannis.  Jaylen and Jayson are none of those players.  Sure, you can match Jaylen's numbers up against Kawhi's but you cannot match him in clutch experience.  Thompson's been there before.  Theis has been there before but that was in Germany.  Brad needs to apply some discipline here, in my opinion.

As far as Kemba goes I fell off his bandwagon a while ago.  The one thing he was supposed to be good at was shooting 3s, right?  He was 1-12 last night and is a sub-average 34.8% on the season.

Thompson with 14 points on 5-8, 9 rebounds and 2 blocks.  Theis with a meager 5 points on 2-7, but 3 blocks and, most impressively, some really good defense on Zion.  I just stuck it to Brad for being too soft with the Js and Kemba but I gotta give him credit to him for putting Theis on Zion, it worked.  Zion just flat-out bulldozed Thompson and Semi, neither of whom are 99# weaklings but Theis gave him space and just forced him to shoot over him.  The star of our bigs last night, the one who really made the most of his 21 minutes, was The Time Lord.  13 rebounds, 6 of them offensive, 4 blocks.  One of his underappreciated skills is passing.  He had 3 assists and only 1 turnover.  That's better than "point forward" Jayson Tatum's 2 and 1.  

Nesmith looked good.  Scrappy defense, Tommy Points, working hard.

Our bench was 10-15 for 25, 2-5 from 3, 18 rebounds, 6 assists and 2 turnovers, 4 steals, 4 blocks.  Obviously a large chunk of these stats are from RWill, but Nesmith with 10 points and 4 rebounds.

Our starters were 22-68 for 90 points, 8-32 from 3, 31 rebounds, 16 assists, 8 turnovers, 5 steals, 7 blocks.

The difference is that our starters got those numbers playing 186 minutes while the bench only played 79 minutes in a 265 total player minutes OT.  Who played better, minute-for-minute?  Not the starters.

I know I'm beating a dead horse here, you all saw the same cluster flip I did, I'm just venting.  We have two players who think it's all about them, Jayson and Kemba.  They have no shot discipline, they are ME-ballers who get themselves trapped repeatedly and/or take WAY too much time off the clock.  Jaylen is trying to be a facilitator, he had 9 assists last night with only 3 turnovers, which is really good but he's just one player.  We need a player who will demand the ball in his hands who knows how to share it.  Smart is one, but as we have been seeing the last few weeks while he's been out that is where our lack of depth is most glaring.

https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=401267625


Bob

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Now if only Brad could get his shit together, just saw First Takes assessment of Celtics latest fiasco, both said this is happening too often with a team that has 2 of the best wings in the L, and it shouldn’t be happening that this team has too much talent to be a .500 team. They said a lot more and thought both guys were accurate in what they assessed.

These games are really getting hard to watch.  The NOP game just might be the icing on the cake. Actually, let me rephrase. These games are really getting hard to watch knowing I've spent $200 on LP and can't get it back! We need to invoke the ghost of Sam for some calm and righting of the ship since this is beginning to look a lot like the Titanic. I'm sure he's not enjoying this stretch either but he always had a way of gathering the whole view and making sense of everything. He never panicked. I'm panicking!!

I almost don't want them to get themselves up to beat the good teams if this is what's waiting behind Door #2 all the effing time.  

db

bobheckler wrote:I read an article recently in which an anonymous NBA player said it was easy to defend against the Celtics.
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I'm assuming you have already given us the gist of that article, but if you happen to have it, I would love to read it....

Bob, expert analysis as usual. Thanks for pointing out what is now obvious to everyone (Brad) not getting paid an annual average salary of $3,666,667 for five more years!

Shamrock1000 wrote:

bobheckler wrote:I read an article recently in which an anonymous NBA player said it was easy to defend against the Celtics.
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I'm assuming you have already given us the gist of that article, but if you happen to have it, I would love to read it....

shamrock,

I'll post it in its entirety now.


Bob


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Bob,

I couldn't agree more. I sit almost every game before my PC monitor screaming the whole time "pass the damn ball" hoping that I don't wake up my neighbors.

Another thing that I think bothers all of us is that there seems to have been a culture change with this year's team. Anyone who can remember the great Celtic teams of the past remembers one thing - perserverence. This team has none. If it's the players or the coach I don't know, but I suspect both of them are responsible.
This is not Celtics ball. There is too much talent on this team for these results. What's maddening is that they sometimes do play Celtics ball - witness the first 2 quarters of yesterday's game. Absolutely beautiful basketball. And then? Out comes the me, me, me, iso, hero ball and the game goes down the toilette.
Some way or other it has got to stop. If it doesn't, I would have no qualms about trading any player who plays in this fashion no matter how much talent he has. I would have no problem replacing the coach or general manager if it's going to solve the problem.

However I'm not an expert, just a fan and I hope there is someone in the organization who knows what to do. If there isn't..................?

Berlin-T

24 points. Ouch.

I had it recording while we were at baseball practice.

I was originally going to watch it tonight. Maybe I'll just delete it and move on.

My shoulder is rehabbed and I was able to throw 140 BP pitches without pain yesterday. First time throwing pain free in a year. If I watch the game video, I'm sure it will result in a whole new kind of pain. Why suffer?

Stephen A’s analysis was brilliant, he said at this level everyone knows what everyone is going to do, everyone has the same strategy, what the great coaches can do is motivate and know how to get the best out of each player, this is Brads dilemma. According to SA we have 2 studs in Tatum and Brown, all the other teams are going thru injuries and dealing with the schedule too, we should be better based on our talent level, we don’t know how to finish and we’ve been to last 2 ECF’s....no excuses for 15-15.

What I’m seeing is our best player making a lot of turnovers, may be related to recovery still of covid, but doing way too much Harden iso ball. We’ve seen him in a zone and hit those, but he does it too much too often with the bad results at the worst times and Harden since he joined the Nets has turned into a great facilitator, constantly leading his team in assists with much less iso ball.

NYCelt wrote:24 points. Ouch.

I had it recording while we were at baseball practice.

I was originally going to watch it tonight. Maybe I'll just delete it and move on.

My shoulder is rehabbed and I was able to throw 140 BP pitches without pain yesterday. First time throwing pain free in a year. If I watch the game video, I'm sure it will result in a whole new kind of pain. Why suffer?

Your going to love seeing our defense on Zion and building the lead up to 24, that part was great.

cowens/oldschool wrote:

NYCelt wrote:24 points. Ouch.

I had it recording while we were at baseball practice.

I was originally going to watch it tonight. Maybe I'll just delete it and move on.

My shoulder is rehabbed and I was able to throw 140 BP pitches without pain yesterday. First time throwing pain free in a year. If I watch the game video, I'm sure it will result in a whole new kind of pain. Why suffer?

Your going to love seeing our defense on Zion and building the lead up to 24, that part was great.

Cow,

True that. Theis was amazing. He played 280# Zion Williamson as well as I've seen anybody play him.


Bob


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bobheckler wrote:This was the worst loss of the year, by far.  We were up 24 points halfway through the 3rd against a sub-.500 team.  

Remember the "good" ol' days when we bragged about our 3 big players and worried about our bigs and our bench?  We shot 40% as a team, and that's because of the efficacy of the bench, NOT the starters.

The Js and K shot 22-68, 32.3%.  What compounds that is they also took 69% of the team's total fgas.  They hogged the ball and missed awfully.

Tatum took one fga in OT, and missed.  He also had 2 ftas, missed both.

Kemba took 3 fgas in OT, all 3, and missed all 3.

Jaylen took 3 fgas in OT, 1 of them a 3 which he missed, 1 of them was a 2 which he made and was 3-3 from the line.  5 points in OT for Jaylen.  Not bad, but not particularly overwhelming either.

This means our top 3 scorers were 1-7 in OT.

In the 4th quarter, which saw our 13 point lead after 3 drop to 0 (we actually were behind but mini-rallied to get into OT):

Jayson was 3-8 for 9 points.
Kemba was 1-6, that one being a 3.
Jaylen was 3-3.

Just a quick recap of how freaking useless they were as our lead evaporated.  Why did it evaporate?  Well, I read an article recently in which an anonymous NBA player said it was easy to defend against the Celtics.  I believe it.  We are a team of ME-ballers.  Jayson is given the ball; dribble, dribble, dribble, shoot (usually a 3).  Jaylen gets the ball; dribble, dribble, dribble, shoot (usually a drive).  Kemba gets the ball; dribble, dribble, dribble, dribble, dribble, dribble, dribble and then shoot a 3 or drive and get stuffed.  There's not much ball movement, there's no side-to-side, the defense gets to hunker down and wait for us.  Also, since they know we don't have a ballhandler who can break a press, as soon as Tatum and Kemba go near the sideline they immediately throw a double-team at them, pinning them against the sideline.  Because they're ME-ballers they're late to pass the ball.  At best the shot clock goes down to almost nothing and we have to be grateful for whatever shot gets thrown up or we have a turnover.  NOP picked up a couple of fouls because they were a little too aggressive on the doubles, and they blocked Tatum, but that didn't stop them from doing it again and again and he still didn't learn that the double was coming and he should get rid of it before they close the trap door shut.

Brad has let them run wild.  I fully realize that this is what NBA coaches do with their stars.  Frank Vogel doesn't tell LeBron what to do, but LeBron is a 4X champion and 4X league MVP.  Tyronn Lue doesn't tell Kawhi what to do, for the same reasons, same with Budenholzer and Giannis.  Jaylen and Jayson are none of those players.  Sure, you can match Jaylen's numbers up against Kawhi's but you cannot match him in clutch experience.  Thompson's been there before.  Theis has been there before but that was in Germany.  Brad needs to apply some discipline here, in my opinion.

As far as Kemba goes I fell off his bandwagon a while ago.  The one thing he was supposed to be good at was shooting 3s, right?  He was 1-12 last night and is a sub-average 34.8% on the season.

Thompson with 14 points on 5-8, 9 rebounds and 2 blocks.  Theis with a meager 5 points on 2-7, but 3 blocks and, most impressively, some really good defense on Zion.  I just stuck it to Brad for being too soft with the Js and Kemba but I gotta give him credit to him for putting Theis on Zion, it worked.  Zion just flat-out bulldozed Thompson and Semi, neither of whom are 99# weaklings but Theis gave him space and just forced him to shoot over him.  The star of our bigs last night, the one who really made the most of his 21 minutes, was The Time Lord.  13 rebounds, 6 of them offensive, 4 blocks.  One of his underappreciated skills is passing.  He had 3 assists and only 1 turnover.  That's better than "point forward" Jayson Tatum's 2 and 1.  

Nesmith looked good.  Scrappy defense, Tommy Points, working hard.

Our bench was 10-15 for 25, 2-5 from 3, 18 rebounds, 6 assists and 2 turnovers, 4 steals, 4 blocks.  Obviously a large chunk of these stats are from RWill, but Nesmith with 10 points and 4 rebounds.

Our starters were 22-68 for 90 points, 8-32 from 3, 31 rebounds, 16 assists, 8 turnovers, 5 steals, 7 blocks.

The difference is that our starters got those numbers playing 186 minutes while the bench only played 79 minutes in a 265 total player minutes OT.  Who played better, minute-for-minute?  Not the starters.

I know I'm beating a dead horse here, you all saw the same cluster flip I did, I'm just venting.  We have two players who think it's all about them, Jayson and Kemba.  They have no shot discipline, they are ME-ballers who get themselves trapped repeatedly and/or take WAY too much time off the clock.  Jaylen is trying to be a facilitator, he had 9 assists last night with only 3 turnovers, which is really good but he's just one player.  We need a player who will demand the ball in his hands who knows how to share it.  Smart is one, but as we have been seeing the last few weeks while he's been out that is where our lack of depth is most glaring.

https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=401267625


Bob

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Bob really great and accurate post, you are agreeing with a lot of what Stephen A said. He also said it was a motivational issue, the gift of knowing how to get the best out of your talent night in and night out. But I also question Brads strategy as does your post and the anonymous source. How could he let Kemba run so wild? In game 7 against us in 10, Phil reined in Kobe who was constantly getting doubled and shutdown 6-25, Kobe let the other guys take and hit the big shots at winning time in the 4th. Is Brad afraid to rein these kids/guys in? He’s got to be louder in their face like Tommy would have done or Pop or Thibs would do, how does a coach let someone go 1-12 from 3...???? Actions speak louder than words, they have tuned him out or he is afraid to coach them.....

Wins and loses have a way of defining who you are as a team.  But this team is still missing a vital part!  The Celtics miss Marcus Smart.  They are an average team in most games that he does not play.  He will not be back until after the ASG. By that time we could be a below .500 team if the trends continue.   And when he does return we still cannot go all the way with a coach like Stevens.

There is no such thing as too big of  lead in an NBA game.  Yesterday afternoon, once again, reveals what can happen when one team losses their momentum.  When we were up 24, I spoke to my buddy up in the Boston as we regularly converse before and during games.  He said that Tommy would have said keep your foot on their necks.  Well we tapped the breaks and got rear ended by a runaway freight train.    I declared that there was no way we were going to lose this game.   I was wrong.

Bad coaching happens as a matter of consequence of poor decision making and those decisions often reveal how a coach feels their way through a game.  When teams make runs you have to make adjustments.  This team does not adjust well to adversity.  Brad Stevens continues the practice of letting his team try to self-adjust.  Unfortunately they are not mature enough to do that on their own.  You cannot let a 24 point lead dwindle down to a mere 7 points (93-86) and then bring Jaylen Brown back in the game at the 8:43 mark of the 4th.  

You would think that coach Stevens would be able to figure out the obvious.  Once again he pulls JB out of the game with 2:56 left in the 3rd and Boston up 84-68.  Brad sat him for 2:56 seconds plus 2 minutes during the change of QTR timeout and then another 3:57 seconds of the 4th QTR.  Do the math.  That's 8:13 on the pine all because we got ourselves a coach that cannot manage playing time.   Brad is a guy with a stop watch looking to break the track record without one of his two best studs on the track.

So of course we loss this game.  We stopped running and passing and mix in there a barrage of missed jumpers by the overpaid Kemba Walker and add yourself a well deserved  L.  Jaylen Brown also struggled making shots however he continued to move the ball.  The big difference between having two cold shooters is that one can still help you while the other one can only provide you with a fake effervescent smile.

If you rarely watch an NBA game and you tuned into the game yesterday and you watched Robert Williams III in action you would come away with a strong impression that that player can do extraordinary things.   I am thinking about starting a Free Robert Williams campaign.  He played 21 minutes yesterday and made highlight play after highlight play.  His 13 rebounds was anchored by 6 huge offensive grabs to keep possessions alive.  His 3 assists once again shows his aptitude for facilitating the offense.  He blocked 4 shots plus 1 called for goaltending.  Rob runs the floor and should be part of multiple P N R opportunities but his team will not pass him the ball enough.  Tatum missed several PNR options with Rob as he still has a tunnel vision mentality at times and gravitates to one on one scoring opportunities.  Brad Stevens must play Robert Williams more minutes and Brad needs to make sure robs gets more looks since he is in fact our most reliable shot maker.  You would think that a coach with a heavy emphasis on metrics would come to that conclusion.  Robert Williams is shooting over 70% from the field.

Grant Williams has been out of the rotation.  I am pretty certain we will see him again but how do you get him minutes?  He cannot succeed at center but he has been shooting the deep ball with some level of proficiency this year (41.5)  He is still averaging 19 MPG but I guess anybody, whose vision is not impaired, can clearly see that RWIII gives you more bang bang for your buck.  The TimeLord has arrived and it is time to accelerate his time on the court.

Aaron Nesmith has started to carve out some rotation minutes and I have been very pleased with his defensive efforts.  He played 27 minutes yesterday and is filling a role as our 3rd wing.  He scored 10 points and had 4 rebounds and 2 steals.  

Jayson Tatum scored on B2B buckets to get us into the OT.  He is a talented player and a big time shot maker.  He turns 23 on March 3rd and as he continues to develop and mature I expect great things from him.  

With regards to Terry Rozier, yes I think Boston should have retained him.  However this was not about TR vs KW.  if you recall that was just one part of what I thought should happen.  When Al Horford decided to leave along with Kyrie Irving and Marcus Morris Danny, had a great opportunity to upgrade his team.  I thought our #1 priority was at center and thought UFA Nicola Vucevic should have been our #1 target.  He resigned with Orlando for $26 Million.  Then Danny Ainge went on his ego trip and just had to find a high scoring replacement for Kyrie and blow through every f--king stop sign along the way.

There are several recent moves by Danny that brings questions about his decision making.  The Celtics could have signed Vucevic and resigned Terry who was a RFA.  

For the record Niclola is averaging 24.1 PPG and 11.7 rebounds.  Not enough to wet your whistle?  Throw in his 3.6 assists and stretch option with his 40% shooting from deep on 6.3 attempts.  Opportunities to sign quality centers at reasonable prices is rare indeed.  

For the 2nd year in a row Terry is doing rather well.  He is 2nd on the Hornets in scoring at 21.1 ppg and is shooting 49.6% from the field including an eye popping 46% from deep on... wow (7.8 3PA per game) The other guy on the team who leads them in scoring Is Gordon Hayward another player that Danny screwed up on.  

So this same off season that Danny blew it with the Kemba Walker signing, he also blew it in the draft.  Here we are in year two since his huge mistakes and we are a .500 team.  Therefore any notions that everything is okay is wrong.  everything is not okay as the last few years have revealed deficiencies with both Danny Ainge and Brad Stevens.  I welcome a change.

bobheckler wrote:

cowens/oldschool wrote:

NYCelt wrote:24 points. Ouch.

I had it recording while we were at baseball practice.

I was originally going to watch it tonight. Maybe I'll just delete it and move on.

My shoulder is rehabbed and I was able to throw 140 BP pitches without pain yesterday. First time throwing pain free in a year. If I watch the game video, I'm sure it will result in a whole new kind of pain. Why suffer?

Your going to love seeing our defense on Zion and building the lead up to 24, that part was great.

Cow,

True that.  Theis was amazing.  He played 280# Zion Williamson as well as I've seen anybody play him.


Bob


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You could make a video of how to defend Zion with our whole first half. I think he was 1-5 and so frustrated, was masterful how we swarmed him as soon as he got close to the rim with fast help 2nd defender. Unfortunately they made adjustments and Kemba threw up brick after brick after brick, so painful to have to watch....

Dboss great post, you and Bobby H I would pay to read your analysis

Why pass (urine) when you can dribble? Both the urinary tracts of old men and the young Boston Celtics are singing the same tune.

John Karalis @RedsArmy_John
about 51 minutes ago
Brad Stevens on last night: In a lot of ways, it was our best 28 minutes of the year. The problem is, the game is 48 minutes



Marc D'Amico @celtics
56 minutes ago
Coach Stevens says of Aaron Nesmith, "Aaron's energy makes a huge difference, and I think it really helps us."



Jay King
Jay King @ByJayKing
58 minutes ago
Brad Stevens just brought up the possibility of using Aaron Nesmith in the closing lineup while Marcus Smart remains out. He appreciates Nesmith’s energy and the extra bit of spacing he provides.



Brian Robb @BrianTRobb
about 7 hours ago
Celtics shot 29 percent from the field and 15 percent from 3-point range in the final 20 minutes of their loss to the Pelicans. Some offensive lowlights from that stretch: Kemba: 1/9 FG (0/7 from 3) Tatum: 3/11 FG Theis: 0/4 FG


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Everything I want to say was already said and explained mostly by bob and dboss, but I would add some things for emphasis anyway:

Once again Brad Stevens shows us he does not know what the word flexibility means. His rotations are his rotations. The flow of the game, the condition of his players, win-loss, end of the world all be damned. He has rotations! HIS!!!

Great point about the motivational component. I believe all our players trust that Brad Stevens can design clever plays. At this high level however, the more talent you have on the team the more important the other factors become - can you bring your players together, can you MOTIVATE them. Brad Stevens has been a glaring fail in that regard for 3 straight years now. While we all happily pointed to the Dive as the scapegoat in year 1 of this period, the last 2 have been educational in a sad way. I believe we have all been expecting him to grow into it, he has the equivalent to great talent (if he were an NBA player), but as we know great talent does not always translate to great players. Same with coaches I guess.

Our 4Q regular breakdowns have more than one reason, but more and more it seems that trust in their coach is one of the bigger ones.

Danny had his moments, but overall he has been sitting on a pile of gold like a Dragon the last 5 years and like in most of those stories the world has passed him by and forgot about him and his treasure. The fact almost all of us despite our green glasses agreed this team as constructed by Danny has slim (or none) chances to win an NBA Championship this year before a single game was played is telling enough.

I get pissed like a lot of you when Jaylen Brown is sent/goes to the corner to sit around when Kemba, and to some degree Tatum, pounds the ball in a completely un-Celtic like fashion to create bad possession after bad possession. I do not remember if I pointed this out the other game, but after that meeting they had Jaylen Brown had an unusually high Turnover game. I watched every single one of them separately however and only 1(2 if I count a forced one) was a bad play - ALL the rest were caused by a bit too much desire for sharing the ball. I wonder when I will be able to say this about Tatum or Kemba who is supposed to be THE PG.

Brad's overall offensive game strategy, game in and game out is so predictable. At times while I am watching, I am asking my self, is this a live game or the NBA AllStar shooting contest. The majority of the plays are just chucking up 3 pointers, most of which while being guarded. There is no creativity on the floor. I know that is Brad's style, because early on in his NBA coaching career, he often spoke about analytics and shooting as many 3 pointers as possible, with the theory that in the end, you will score more points with the added bonus point = 3 then just shooting 2 pointers.

I can debate that theory. By either driving into the paint or passing to your center in the paint not only can get you an easier bucket, it can also create foul trouble earlier for the opposing team. They add up, and in crunch time can add additional points from the foul line in critical situations.

But let me digress. If you want to shoot the 3 pointer Brad, how about moving the ball into your center creating two options, the first is your center may score a low risk shot. The second would be to get the defense to sag in the middle causing the second option to occur. Your center now can kick the ball out to your outside shooters who by now have an open and probably uncontested 3 point shot.

Again, Brad's offense is so predictable, every coach in the league has now drawn up defenses to negate Tatum and Brown's offensive threat.

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The Celtics are ranked 28th in assists per game. This team is selfish and will not move the ball. They are also ranked 28th in assisted FG. That stat reflects a coach who cannot seem to get his players to move the damn ball. Brad thinks an open look is a good shot. It is not always a good shot.

dBoss

AMEN

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Dboss, I too have been asking to get Vucevic for years. Such requests have fallen on Danny's deaf ears. As for Danny's last two drafts, I still think that in 2026 when Romeo's implanted bionic arm has fully fused with his own neuro-tendino-muscular system he may be a very valuable player for us.

Grant at 22? I now think he was a very decent pick at that spot for a 4, not for a 5. Who on the following list do you think is currently better?

23. Jazz draft Darius Bazley >> officially traded to the Thunder after first being dealt to the Grizzlies...  .decent rebounding and scoring this year.  tall but thin...

24. 76ers draft Ty Jerome >> officially traded to the Suns after first being dealt to the Celtics
   ....not now playing in the NBA

25. Trail Blazers draft Nassir Little...small. good shooter.. not many rb's...more to's than assists

26. Cavaliers draft Dylan Windler.... a scrawny SF...not much there except a good frito shooter

27. Nets draft Mfiondu Kabengele >> officially traded to the Clippers... NOPE, not showing much

28. Warriors draft Jordan Poole ...The Microwave...good frito shooter...not much else. skinny

29. Spurs draft Keldon Johnson ....all around solid SF...Pop knows how to draft

30. Bucks draft Kevin Porter Jr. >> officially traded to the Cavaliers after first being dealt to the Pistons  ...Not playing in the NBA. Is he injured?


ROUND 2

31. Nets draft Nicolas Claxton  ...Now playing in the NBA for first time in a year after injury...why? His nickname explains it - The Slim Reaper. 6'11" 210 lb.

32. Suns draft KZ Okpala >> officially traded to the Heat, who dealt future second-round picks to the Pacers   ...doing nothing for the Heat


33. 76ers draft Carsen Edwards >> officially traded to the Celtics

34. 76ers draft Bruno Fernando >> officially traded to the Hawks ...Meh

35. Hawks draft Marcos Louzada Silva >> officially traded to the Pelicans...not playing at all

36. Hornets draft Cody Martin ...he can shoot, but not the 3 ball...meh meh

37. Mavericks draft Deividas Sirvydis >> officially traded to the Pistons...doing ZERO there

38. Bulls draft Daniel Gafford...not much scoring nor rebounding for a PF

39. Pelicans draft Alen Smailagic >> officially traded to the Warriors..tall super skinny...no 3 point shot and no rb's...not playing this year

40. Kings draft Justin James...nothing to see here

41. Warriors draft Eric Paschall...can score and rebound. I like him...

You Can Figure out the rest from here on...

42. 76ers draft Admiral Schofield >> officially traded to the Wizards

43. Timberwolves draft Jaylen Nowell

44. Heat draft Bol Bol >> officially traded to the Nuggets

45. Pistons draft Isaiah Roby >> officially traded to the Mavericks

46. Magic draft Talen Horton-Tucker >> officially traded to the Lakers

47. Kings draft Ignas Brazdeikis >> officially traded to the Knicks

48. Clippers draft Terance Mann

49. Spurs draft Quinndary Weatherspoon

50. Pacers draft Jarrell Brantley >> officially traded to the Jazz

51. Celtics draft Tremont Waters

52. Hornets draft Jalen McDaniels

53. Jazz draft Justin Wright-Foreman

54. 76ers draft Marial Shayok

55. Knicks draft Kyle Guy >> officially traded to the Kings

56. Clippers draft Jaylen Hands >> officially traded to the Nets

57. Pelicans draft Jordan Bone >> officially traded to the Pistons, after first being dealt to the Hawks then to the 76ers

58. Warriors draft Miye Oni >> officially traded to the Jazz

59. Raptors draft Dewan Hernandez

60. Kings draft Vanja Marinkovic

dboss wrote:The Celtics are ranked 28th in assists per game.  This team is selfish and will not move the ball.   They are also ranked 28th in assisted FG.  That stat reflects a coach who cannot seem to get his players to move the damn ball.  Brad thinks an open look is a good shot.  It is not always a good shot.  

Very important stat dboss.. pretty much identifies our problem as a team.