Celtics Projected Win Total, 2021-2022

Brad has said he's only planning on doing some roster "tweaking" at the end of the bench.  To me that means Parker, Edwards and/or Dunn.  Any player he gets in trade for them (he needs a net loss of one contract, so if there's an inbound player that would mean that a minimum of two of these players are gone) isn't likely to be a needle-mover.

Assuming that's the case, then we already have our working 2021-2022 roster for all extents and purposes, minus one or more of those three, and the reason why they're on the bubble is because they are non-impact players.

So, here we are.  How many wins do you think this team will earn this coming season?  


Ball Handlers - Smart, Schroder, Pritchard, (Dunn), (Edwards)
Wings - Brown, Richardson, Nesmith, Langford
Swings - Tatum, Grant Williams, (Parker)
Bigs - Robert Williams, Horford, Kanter, Fernando
* Players in parentheses may not be on the roster on Opening Night and, therefore, you should take their possible departure into account despite not knowing which one(s) will be gone.

Multiple choice is not allowed.  Vote cancelling so you can change your mind and re-vote is allowed.  Please provide an explanation for how you got to your conclusion.


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Hi,
I voted for 56.
Mostly my gut feeling. Also, if the chemistry works, I think this roster can be on par with MIL and BKN who should be at around 58-62.
I don't think the upcoming change in the roster will be of any significance. Obviously, we don't know if there will be any trades during the season.
And I put a lot of faith on the new coach.

AK

I think they can do better than many expect, even with anticipated ongoing roster moves. I believe the starting 5 will be fairly strong if RWIII can stay on the floor for about 20 minutes a game. I also think Schroder could have plenty of incentive to prove something as a likely strong 6th man.

I usually shy away from this one while making other predictions but I'm confident this group can get themselves 46 wins this year.

I went with 48. I think that there will be growing pains/chemistry issues early on, what with the coaching and roster change(s), especially in finding a compatible and effective 4/5 rotation. I also think we will have games where we will struggle offensively with our 2nd unit. With all the newness that the off season brought us and the improvement of the Eastern Conference I think 46-52 wins would be a reasonable expectation.

I can see a 50 win season.

The Celtics will be a top tier defensive team.  I think they will be the best defensive team in the East.  They added several high quality defenders.  The new coach will emphasize defense and Brad has made deals to add defenders and retain our top guard and bigman defenders.

I went with 46.  Like sinus007 optimism and would kill for that total.  This will put them at .560 and at best 3rd in the East.  

It will be interesting to see how all the new pieces of the puzzle fit together.  This off-season was about as close as we could get to a nuclear option for the team.  The fact that Brad locked and loaded MS and RWIII, keeping J-sqaured backed that option off a little bit.    

db

P.S. I really would like to see several teams upset the predestine Lakers vs. Brooklyn apple cart. Injuries and stupidity will take care of Brooklyn. Westbrook has been given a free pass from Barkleyville. His to jack up.

The X factor is Robert Williams, he’s obviously a spark, with him and J’s at their best, with improved defense and growth of PP and AN and J’s, should be 54-56 win team. That’s a lot to ask for from Rob…???

If he plays 45 games, we might only be .500 team, even with 2 J’s….

cowens/oldschool wrote:The X factor is Robert Williams, he’s obviously a spark, with him and J’s at their best, with improved defense and growth of PP and AN and J’s, should be 54-56 win team. That’s a lot to ask for from Rob…???

If he plays 45 games, we might only be .500 team, even with 2 J’s….

You do not miss much.

RW played 52 games last season including 13 starts.  His contract has a 69 game incentive.

He has to avoid injuries.  He plays with a tremendous level of force and intensity.  He has the ability to guard multiple positions and as his positioning techniques continue to improve he will anchor a great defense.

Any thoughts on how the recent acquisition of Hernangomez might affect our win total? Will he even have an effect?


Bob


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bobheckler wrote:Any thoughts on how the recent acquisition of Hernangomez might affect our win total?  Will he even have an effect?


Bob


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I like him, never heard of him, but seeing how he moves, like a well coached Euro; he can/may help us in spurts, especially if he has a better shooting year. He can give Tatum a breather and play with Tatum, with Tatum as the 3. If he is best version of himself and things click, would be less minutes from mini 4 GWill, which can help us.

dboss wrote:

cowens/oldschool wrote:The X factor is Robert Williams, he’s obviously a spark, with him and J’s at their best, with improved defense and growth of PP and AN and J’s, should be 54-56 win team. That’s a lot to ask for from Rob…???

If he plays 45 games, we might only be .500 team, even with 2 J’s….

You do not miss much.

RW played 52 games last season including 13 starts.  His contract has a 69 game incentive.

He has to avoid injuries.  He plays with a tremendous level of force and intensity.  He has the ability to guard multiple positions and as his positioning techniques continue to improve he will anchor a great defense.

Someone said him getting the contract proves management thinks his health issues are not that serious and he can overcome them….let’s hope. If he can give us 72 games at 25 mpg, we’ll all be very happy.

Oh yee of little faith!!! I am going for 55, pipe dream? maybe? Glutton for punishment? definitely!!! But I will say they are going to be better this year

Will they ever go back to an 82 game schedule? Playing less, making more.. Wish I could have found a job like that years ago

Well there is some hope, he played in more games that Anthony Street clothes Davis last year.

I went for 57 assuming they will play an 82 game schedule. How many games will they play? Deduct the appropriare % of games from 57 if the schedule is less.

bobheckler wrote:Any thoughts on how the recent acquisition of Hernangomez might affect our win total?  Will he even have an effect?


Bob


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He has some skills.  He appears to have some quickness and offensive skills.  This is another low risk, high reward addition. We needed more depth at 4.  The guy that may get squeezed is GW.

I need to see how he is utilized.  I don't know if he is a guy attached to more wins.  

He seems like the type of player you would see on a Spurs roster.

dboss wrote:

bobheckler wrote:Any thoughts on how the recent acquisition of Hernangomez might affect our win total?  Will he even have an effect?


Bob


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He has some skills.  He appears to have some quickness and offensive skills.  This is another low risk, high reward addition. We needed more depth at 4.  The guy that may get squeezed is GW.

I need to see how he is utilized.  I don't know if he is a guy attached to more wins.  

He seems like the type of player you would see on a Spurs roster.

+1 regarding JH's fit in Spurs team. Perfect.

I am ever the optimist, so I went with 55 wins for the following reasons.

First, the new coach should have far more influence on the team this year than Stevens seemed to have last year. The fact that the Cs were about buried so many times so early in games last season made me sick and was clearly a sign of the players tuning Stevens out after a pretty good run of seasons.  The word of the coach can become a problem after a bunch of years.  But, for whatever reason, a bunch of games were lost last year due to the early bumbling by the players wearing shirts that either said Boston or Celtics.

Second,  Tatum and Brown will have to become better facilitators with the ball to please the new head coach who has already made this an important emphasis.  Just being able to score well should no longer be the only parts of their games that makes them All Stars.  Both guys have heard the new boss mention this, and I am sure that we will see some serious improvement in Brown and Tatum in this area.

Third, this team has some guys who have already hit the jackpot with deserved(?) salary increases, but now
this bunch of players need to show that they are as good as their new (newish) salary jumps.

Fourth, there are a few guys on this year's roster who are going to have to play well as well as fit in as they chase their next contract.  Schroeder is just one of these guys.

Fifth, the roster is much better this year. I think that Stevens was somewhat hog tied with a terrible roster last season, and now has the power to build a better roster for his successor.   Edwards was just one of the pretty much useless guys who are no longer hanging around. Having "good guys" is very important on every team, but having better talented guys who have a wider reaching set of skill is even more important.

And, here is a bonus reason. Sixth, the team is not SO young any more.  Some of the additions should be better players because most of them (OK, not Horford) are young veterans.

Wideclyde. It is so good to read your spot on analyses. Keep 'em coming!

Was a combination of things that led to a bad season. It started the year before with the mental fart by Stevens, blowing a 3-0 lead in the waning half a second, the 4th game was a Raptor blowout; the young team unraveled was shocked, and tied 2-2 in an exhausting dog fight that went 7. Then Heat further exposed Kemba and the worst C’s draft class in history, J’s didn’t have enough experience to carry us and stop the bleeding from a multifaceted deeper Heat team.

Tristian Thompson was a big mistake, his defense is marginally better than Kanter, with much worse offense. For 9 mill a wasted signing. Kemba was not allowed to play back to back to be fresh for playoffs, how’d that workout? Terrible bench, PP and Nesmith weren’t ready, and 19 draft gave us nothing. Thru it all, J’s showed a jump, especially Jaylen who I thought should have been an all star in 19-20. Jaylen also had some injury issues dealing with condensed schedule and team needing a lot of minutes from him as we had no bench. Theis showed some flashes before he left as did RWill, who fans were demanding more minutes from. By the time the playoffs came around Jaylen was done, Kemba was done, RWill was hobbling. Danny put a crappy team together. Team may have tuned out Brad, but Danny gave him the worst roster ever, why was Semi still here and GWill even drafted? So not enough talent, bad fit in parts and too many injuries/covid made a frustrating season.

dboss wrote:I can see a 50 win season.

The Celtics will be a top tier defensive team.  I think they will be the best defensive team in the East.  They added several high quality defenders.  The new coach will emphasize defense and Brad has made deals to add defenders and retain our top guard and bigman defenders.

Time to check our win total predictions. I said 50 and that we would be the top defensive team in the East. 16-7 the rest of the way gets us to 50 wins.

So what do you think?

dboss wrote:

dboss wrote:I can see a 50 win season.

The Celtics will be a top tier defensive team.  I think they will be the best defensive team in the East.  They added several high quality defenders.  The new coach will emphasize defense and Brad has made deals to add defenders and retain our top guard and bigman defenders.

Time to check our win total predictions.  I said 50 and that we would be the top defensive team in the East.  16-7 the rest of the way gets us to 50 wins.

So what do you think?

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