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Post by gyso Fri Nov 12, 2021 10:37 am

Scal doesn't bother me.  To me, he plays the role of a "typical big dumb jock".  Much of it could be an act.  His basketball knowledge far surpasses mine.

Many times, when he says, "I don't know what's going on", neither do I.  What is and isn't a flagrant foul, what is or isn't a charge/blocking foul, why an obvious call isn't reversed during a review, why calls are being made on one end of the court and not the other, on and on.  It often comes from expecting the usual, customary, habitual, or conventional result and getting something else instead.  (someone is using their Thesaurus today.) Around The Horn 2021-2022 Season - Page 2 1f60e

Sure, sometimes he does on and on about players on the other teams, but he is much better than some of the crew on the national broadcast games.  LeBron this and LeBron that, often during live action in a game that that guy isn't even in.

I do agree that Mike may be slipping.  I saw where he said, "no starters in the game" when there were still two on the floor.  In his defense, I think he is viewing the game on a monitor and he cannot see the whole floor.  That has to be a tough way to try to keep up with the pace of the game.

Yes, I still like Abby.  At least she doesn't look for every opportunity to trash the Celtics, like many of the folks in the Boston media.

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Post by RosalieTCeltics Fri Nov 12, 2021 11:22 am

I wonder if it is his choice not to travel to away games. I know he signed a new contract, 3 years, but also said there were provisions in it that he has not had before. I do know this Covid thing has thrown him for a loop, so maybe calling play by play on the big screen is what he wants. It is too bad, but his voice is very comforting compared to some of the others calling games. Could also be a cost cutting move by NBC.
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Post by Ktron Fri Nov 12, 2021 12:39 pm

cowens/oldschool wrote:Speaking of, I was exchanging ideas with someone and they said I called our coach an idiot, I disagreed and even pointed out in my post I said the comment was idiotic, that it didn’t mean the coach was an idiot….

I am declaring someone a full fledged total official idiot, that person is Scal….Mr I have NO IDEA what is going on…??? Over and over and many more pure idiotic comments that prove he is a full fledged idiot.

No doubt! LOL

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Post by Ktron Fri Nov 12, 2021 1:22 pm

gyso wrote:Scal doesn't bother me.  To me, he plays the role of a "typical big dumb jock".  Much of it could be an act.  His basketball knowledge far surpasses mine.

Many times, when he says, "I don't know what's going on", neither do I.  What is and isn't a flagrant foul, what is or isn't a charge/blocking foul, why an obvious call isn't reversed during a review, why calls are being made on one end of the court and not the other, on and on.  It often comes from expecting the usual, customary, habitual, or conventional result and getting something else instead.  (someone is using their Thesaurus today.) Around The Horn 2021-2022 Season - Page 2 1f60e

Sure, sometimes he does on and on about players on the other teams, but he is much better than some of the crew on the national broadcast games.  LeBron this and LeBron that, often during live action in a game that that guy isn't even in.

I do agree that Mike may be slipping.  I saw where he said, "no starters in the game" when there were still two on the floor.  In his defense, I think he is viewing the game on a monitor and he cannot see the whole floor.  That has to be a tough way to try to keep up with the pace of the game.

Yes, I still like Abby.  At least she doesn't look for every opportunity to trash the Celtics, like many of the folks in the Boston media.

Gyso,
I get with what your saying about the National announcers repeating the same ole Lebron this and that and some of the announcers in my opinion should not be broadcasting on that level.
However, I listen and watch much differently than most fans only because I work in media. So my observations that I have most fans pay no attention to but I point them out anyway. Lots of people tell me, "nobody is paying attention to this or that". Well, I've seen enough studies that say otherwise. Viewers just dont talk about it but subconsciously its there.
As far as Scal is concerned. There is no doubt that he knows the game of basketball and could probably coach a team ( I think he was coaching a 3 on 3 team at one time) on the college or pro level.
However, his broadcasting skills are very poor. He is paid to be an analyst. His job is to analyze, clarify and communicate on a level that makes it easier and clearer for the fans watching and/or listening.
He should never ever say "I dont know". Its Ok for Mike to say it because he's simply PBP and thats what he's hiired to do. Networks hire athletes as analysts for the opposite reason, because they do know. They can explain the nuamces of the game better and much clearer than the PBP person. Tony Romo is excellant at it. Lots of people dont like Mark and Jeff but they too are very good at pointing out and clarifying whats going on. Annoying at times, yes but as analysts they do a good job. If you listen to Romo or some of the better analysts when there is a call thats being reviewed, most if not all of the time they usually get it right before the officials have made the decision. So if Rpmo says that calls going to be overturned, you can bet that 99% of the time that call is overturned. Over time that builds trust with the viewers. They know he's gonna get it right. Myself, even watching as a fan have no trust in Scal. How many times has he gotten the play review wrong? Most of the time. Thats bad! Even if people like him as a person or like his on- air personality, they are not going to trust his judgement as an analyst.
The casual fan will never pickup on his incompetence but the fans that are hardcore or are really into the sport do. I watch the boards all the time and the negatives spewed about him and others generally run along the same line and these are fans in different cities watching at times with no emotional attachment to either team.
I know im rambling and a lot of folks will never bring up the analysts but sub consciously if they cant trust them they may not say anything but theyll seek and find another source.
Trust me on this, Mike's slipping has a lot to do with his broadcast partner. Broadcasters have chemistry too. Mike and Tommy had chemistry and they worked so long together that they could finish each other thoughts.Mike gets lost at times because of what Scal is talking about. Scal is a distratction at times and thats why Mike is missing things he never did before. Theres only one Tommy and I dont expect Scal to be him. I just want him to do his job and he's not. His radio show reflects the same incompetence. Listeners call and know more than he does. Thats not the way its supposed to be. Maybe he'll get better but if he's not working with a media coach, he never will.
Lastly, Abby is a pretty good sideline reporter in my opinion. She gets a little long winded but shes managable. As far as a studio host, Abby needs a lot of work. Thats why shes back on the sidelines. Ok im done. :>)

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Post by gyso Fri Nov 12, 2021 2:09 pm

Ktron,

What's bad about reviews in basketball is that the refs get it wrong much of the time. We see the same video and know the rules and they still get it wrong. Over time, Scal has watched the same video, knows the rules, makes a call and the refs still get it wrong. The kernel of doubt has him in the same boat as us, not knowing how the call will go. At least he is honest about it.

You're on the Game On! thread. You know how many times we are sure of the outcome of a review and it goes the other way.

As far as Romo goes, he is a bias Patriot hater and I have no use for him. Perhaps he has other redeeming qualities, but I don't hear them because I already have him on mute. Smile

Maybe, as you say, we just view sports from a different place, me as just a fan and you as a former media member. But like I said, he doesn't bother me.

To each their own.

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Post by Ktron Fri Nov 12, 2021 7:06 pm

gyso wrote:Ktron,

What's bad about reviews in basketball is that the refs get it wrong much of the time.  We see the same video and know the rules and they still get it wrong.  Over time, Scal has watched the same video, knows the rules, makes a call and the refs still get it wrong.  The kernel of doubt has him in the same boat as us, not knowing how the call will go.  At least he is honest about it.

You're on the Game On! thread.  You know how many times we are sure of the outcome of a review and it goes the other way.  

As far as Romo goes, he is a bias Patriot hater and I have no use for him.  Perhaps he has other redeeming qualities, but I don't hear them because I already have him on mute.  Smile

Maybe, as you say, we just view sports from a different place, me as just a fan and you as a former media member.  But like I said, he doesn't bother me.

To each their own.

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Guess what. I don’t like Romeo either but he’s excellent at what he does. Dude even recognizes a play before it happens and informs the viewer. He’s really good at what he does and I thought thats what we were talking about, the quality of the broadcasters. I was wrong. I get what your saying. It’s preference and Scal doesn’t bother you and thats cool. You watch and listen with a bias toward your team, like most fans and so do I and as a fan, Like u I hate broadcasters that dog my team too (I use the mute button on Michaels and Collinsworth LOL)but beyond that our perspectives differ.
I have a different perspective on replay when it comes to right or wrong. First off, I dislike replay in sports and don’t think it belongs there but its here. Your indication of none of us fans not getting the calls right and the referee and analyst not getting the calls right is a perspective I don’t align with. They and he are not in the same boat as us. Honesty doesn’t enter into it. He’s supposed to at least have a clue. If I go on your premise than any of us on this board and any fan attending games are qualified to be game analysts on TV/Radio. Not.  Their (refs) job is to get it right. They don’t but they should and the viewer has to have enough trust in the analyst to at least get somewhat of an inkling that he/she is right. That’s what they are paid for. Let’s face it the game wasn’t meant to be perfect and it never will thats why I’m against replay and if you’re ok with Scal that’s your prerogative. Ain’t nothing wrong with that. As you said, to each his/her own.

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Post by bobheckler Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:12 am

https://sports.yahoo.com/stephen-curry-passes-ray-allen-for-most-3-pointers-made-in-nba-history-golden-state-warriors-055027267.html



Stephen Curry passes Ray Allen for most 3-pointers made in NBA history


Ryan Young·Writer
Fri, November 12, 2021, 9:50 PM·2 min read


Ray Allen’s record has finally fallen.

Golden State Warriors star Stephen Curry officially surpassed Allen on Friday night, and has now made more 3-pointers throughout his career than anyone else in NBA history.

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Stephen Curry now has the most combined regular & postseason threes in league history.
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Curry entered Friday night’s blowout 119-93 win over the Chicago Bulls trailing Allen’s record — which includes both the regular season and the playoffs — by a single 3-pointer.

He tied Allen with a bucket not even two minutes into the game, and then surpassed him with a contested shot from the top of the key over Alex Caruso.


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Curry finished with a team-high 40 points while shooting 9-of-17 from behind the arc.

Allen finished his career with 3,358 made 3-pointers. Curry, who is in his 13th season, hit Allen’s mark in 585 fewer games. He entered Friday night’s game averaging 3.7 made 3-pointers per game and shooting better than 47% from behind the arc for his career.

Curry set the single-season record with 402 3-pointers made during the 2015-16 season, when he averaged 5.1 made shots from behind the arc per contest. Headed into Friday night, Curry was averaging five made 3-pointers per game this season — meaning he’s almost perfectly on pace to match that outing.

Though Curry still has a ways to go to pull that off once again — the Warriors are only 12 games into the season, after all — his game certainly isn’t showing any signs of slowing down. At the rate he’s going, Curry should have this 3-point record locked down for a long, long time.


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MY NOTE:  Ray Allen played until he was 38 years old.  In that final year he made 116 3pt fgm, so he wasn't "done".  What's truly amazing about this is that Curry's career 3pt fg% is .432.  His worst year, ever, was the 2019-2020 season. He only played in 5 games, only took 49 3pt fgas and made 12. This year has been his 2nd worst year.  He has "only" shot .400 from 3 through a dozen games.  Like many posters on this board I have been privileged to have watched many great shooters from a number of eras.  I hate comparing eras, but I will say this, I have never seen a shooter who makes these shots look so effortless.  A flick of his wrist and it's gone.  No wind-up, just up, "flick" and gone.


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Post by bobheckler Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:50 am

I watched the Dubs destroy Brooklyn in Brooklyn last night.  The 18 point loss doesn't reflect just how bad the beat down was.  The Nets were down 28 points well into the 4th quarter.  They knocked 10 points off the deficit in garbage time.

GSW really has no center.  Kevon Looney is 6'9", 225# and has a 7'4" wingspan.  That's as big as Robert Williams but is much lighter and isn't anywhere near as athletic.  There is no other comparable player on GSW with Wiseman out.  And they killed Brooklyn, holding them to 38.6%.

25-10 fast break points for GSW.  52-42 points in the paint for GSW.  The paint points were all off of motion and an understandably healthy respect for GSW's outside game.  This isn't a "pound'em inside" NBA anymore.  You must hit your shots to open the middle for the rest of your team.

GSW also has a top defense.  Without a true center.  It.  Can.  Be.  Done.

It doesn't hurt to have the greatest shooter in the history of the NBA neither.  Steph was 9-14 from 3.  He now has 2908 regular season 3pt fgm in his career.  The All-Time Leader is Ray Allen (Steph already is the #1 3pt fg maker in NBA history if you include playoffs) with 2973 regular season 3pt fgm.  Steph only has 65 to go, and he's averaging 5.4 3pt fgm/game this season.  That's 12 games, at his current rate.  The only thing that might slow him down, a bit, is that Klay Thompson is expected back in a month (imagine that!  GSW is a league-leading 12-2 without the other Splash Brother) and Klay might steal a few shots from Steph.  So, maybe it'll take him 15 games, or 18.  Before the All-Star game, at any rate.

Shooters like Ray Allen, Steph Curry, Reggie Miller etal all have their own routines, their own form, but it wouldn't hurt our shooters, Aaron Nesmith and Payton Pritchard, to watch some of Steph's film to see how quickly he can get his shot off.  Steph is only 6'2", with a 6'4" wingspan.  Nesmith is 6'5" with a 7' wingspan and Pritchard is 6'1" with a 6'4 1/2" wingspan.  So it's not like Steph has some huge physical advantage over either of them.


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Post by gyso Wed Nov 17, 2021 12:41 pm

Bob,

I noticed on a couple 3-pointers from the last Cleveland game that Rubio got off at least two with that quick flick of the wrist (and little other windup). After I saw it the first time, I watched for it and he did it again.

He is not a huge guy either.

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Post by Ktron Wed Nov 17, 2021 1:41 pm

bobheckler wrote:I watched the Dubs destroy Brooklyn in Brooklyn last night.  The 18 point loss doesn't reflect just how bad the beat down was.  The Nets were down 28 points well into the 4th quarter.  They knocked 10 points off the deficit in garbage time.

GSW really has no center.  Kevon Looney is 6'9", 225# and has a 7'4" wingspan.  That's as big as Robert Williams but is much lighter and isn't anywhere near as athletic.  There is no other comparable player on GSW with Wiseman out.  And they killed Brooklyn, holding them to 38.6%.

25-10 fast break points for GSW.  52-42 points in the paint for GSW.  The paint points were all off of motion and an understandably healthy respect for GSW's outside game.  This isn't a "pound'em inside" NBA anymore.  You must hit your shots to open the middle for the rest of your team.

GSW also has a top defense.  Without a true center.  It.  Can.  Be.  Done.

It doesn't hurt to have the greatest shooter in the history of the NBA neither.  Steph was 9-14 from 3.  He now has 2908 regular season 3pt fgm in his career.  The All-Time Leader is Ray Allen (Steph already is the #1 3pt fg maker in NBA history if you include playoffs) with 2973 regular season 3pt fgm.  Steph only has 65 to go, and he's averaging 5.4 3pt fgm/game this season.  That's 12 games, at his current rate.  The only thing that might slow him down, a bit, is that Klay Thompson is expected back in a month (imagine that!  GSW is a league-leading 12-2 without the other Splash Brother) and Klay might steal a few shots from Steph.  So, maybe it'll take him 15 games, or 18.  Before the All-Star game, at any rate.

Shooters like Ray Allen, Steph Curry, Reggie Miller etal all have their own routines, their own form, but it wouldn't hurt our shooters, Aaron Nesmith and Payton Pritchard, to watch some of Steph's film to see how quickly he can get his shot off.  Steph is only 6'2", with a 6'4" wingspan.  Nesmith is 6'5" with a 7' wingspan and Pritchard is 6'1" with a 6'4 1/2" wingspan.  So it's not like Steph has some huge physical advantage over either of them.


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Lots of good points made here Bob. However, Steph’s techniques and the success thereof is from yrs of work work work and then more work and it continues. Nesmith and Payton Can watch film of Steph and pop popcorn for hrs and days but they’ll probably be in rocking chairs before they begin to catch up. I’m saying this assuming of course that they are putting in work but not the kind thats going to bring results that are even remotely successful as Curry. It also takes skill. They both have it but not Steph like. I’ll settle for their continuance to work hard and get better so they at least slightly resemble Steph’s brother Seth. We’ll be in excellent shape it it happens.

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Post by RosalieTCeltics Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:50 pm

Just think of what the record will be when Steph is done. Ray Allen was a finese shooter, he worked so hard at his craft, can you imagine how hard Curry has worked? He will have a total that everyone thinks will never be touched, and then Tre Young is coming along shooting lights out, so we can never say it is a record that will never be broken.

The Warriors beat the Nets last night and listening to reporters, you would have thought it was a shootout. Durant only had 19 points. Just think of how good the Warriors might be when Klay comes back and is more than half the player he was before he went out injured They are the team to watch, no doubt.

The conversation on announcers is all a matter of opinion I guess. National announcers brings my radio out and Sean Grande and Cedric Maxwell for me to enjoy, sometimes I wonder why I don't do it for all games except for Mike. NBC Sports Boston is not a station I enjoy anymore. If it we not for Mike Gorman I would not listen at all. Just my opinion, I AM A HOMER, no doubt about that
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Post by cowens/oldschool Wed Nov 17, 2021 10:02 pm

Giannis with a huge statement game against AD, showing who’s the best PF in the game. AD had no fight, always thought AD is a little soft, still remember the night Jared Sullinger kicked his ass.

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Post by RosalieTCeltics Wed Nov 17, 2021 10:08 pm

I wish someone would have given Jared a shot back to the NBA. He looks awesome, what hands he had
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Post by cowens/oldschool Wed Nov 17, 2021 10:31 pm

Stephen A just ripped AD, saying even without Lebron, you have to put up more fight than that, that you can’t let him run roughshod over you….

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Post by cowens/oldschool Wed Nov 17, 2021 10:36 pm

RosalieTCeltics wrote:I wish someone would have given Jared a shot back to the NBA.  He looks awesome, what hands he had

He could post up and rebound a little too, he just couldn’t defend or even he hidden on defense, today’s NBA every position needs to defend in space. Could you imagine him and Kantor as a 4-5 combo…???

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Post by bobheckler Thu Nov 18, 2021 10:27 am

cowens/oldschool wrote:
RosalieTCeltics wrote:I wish someone would have given Jared a shot back to the NBA.  He looks awesome, what hands he had

He could post up and rebound a little too, he just couldn’t defend or even he hidden on defense, today’s NBA every position needs to defend in space. Could you imagine him and Kantor as a 4-5 combo…???


Rosalie and Cowens,

Sully fell in love with the 3, in part because that's what Brad wanted from him, but he never shot even 30% from 3 in a season.

He did have marvelously soft hands for a big man.  It was like an NFL receiver with their tactile gloves, the ball just sticks to their hands.  That was Sully.

He's only 29.  What a waste of talent.  He ate himself out of the NBA.  He might have even eaten himself out of the Chinese league.  He's now playing in Korea.  I'm not a fan of the Chinese league, they play zero defense, but it has to be better than the Korean League.


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Post by bobheckler Thu Nov 18, 2021 10:32 am

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/stephen-smith-says-kevin-durant-173951909.html



Stephen A. Smith says Kevin Durant made a mistake coming to Brooklyn: ‘Kyrie Irving betrayed you!’



Nick Schwartz
Wed, November 17, 2021, 9:39 AM



The Brooklyn Nets weren’t in the same class as the Golden State Warriors on Tuesday night, losing by double-digits on their home floor, and Stephen A. Smith eviscerated the team in a fiery segment the next day on ESPN’s First Take.


The Nets were billed as a superteam and an NBA Finals favorite before the season started, but with James Harden struggling to rediscover his MVP form, and with Kyrie Irving out indefinitely over his vaccination stance, Smith believes that Kevin Durant has “no help” and made a mistake by going to Brooklyn over joining the Knicks.

First, Smith called out James Harden, who Smith says needs to get his “act together.”

“Kevin Durant, I’m sad for you, bro. You all alone. You have no help. And more importantly than anything else, you made the wrong decision by going to Brooklyn.

And I’m not talking about this as a Knick fan… Kevin Durant made the wrong decision by going to (Brooklyn), and he’s going to rue the day that he did that.

Let’s analyze why that is, because you’ve got a guy in James Harden – not first year, this is his second year in a row. Mad love for James Harden, you’ve got to get your act together, bro. You ain’t James Harden right now. Averaging 19 points per game, you sitting there struggling from the field. You had 24 points last night, it was the meaningless 24 points that I’ve ever seen from the career of James Harden. You are a superstar, and you are not looking like one.”


Smith then moved on to the Kyrie Irving situation, which he calls a “disgrace.” Smith went as far to say that he hopes the Nets cut Irving over his unwillingness to become eligible to play.

“KD, you made the wrong decision bro, and here’s why: Because you trusted Kyrie. Kyrie Irving betrayed you. Flat out betrayed you. Left you hanging! And while you’re sitting up there getting your (expletive) kicked last night… Steph Curry sitting there shimmying and joking around, laughing on the court, they were cheering for Steph Curry in Brooklyn! From opening tap, they were chanting MVP in the Barclays Center, and it wasn’t for the dude averaging 28.9 points a game for the Brooklyn Nets, it was for Steph Curry.

And then you juxtapose Steph Curry compared to Kyrie Irving, and what do you have? You’ve got Kyrie Irving who is a showstopper. Kyrie Irving who is a superstar talent. He is box office, and can’t be trusted. I actually hope Kyrie Irving gets cut. I mean this is a disgrace to sit up there and watch this team last night look like straight garbage… Every respectable team you go up against waxes y’all behind. And why? Because KD don’t have no help. You’re left there all alone. You don’t have a culture. You don’t even have a damn fanbase.”


Bob
MY NOTE:  "You don’t have a culture. You don’t even have a damn fanbase.”  Stephen A(sshole) Smith better not go over the bridge to Brooklyn for dinner.  What he said might be true but, damn, that's cold!  LOL.  Too bad Championships aren't handed out to teams based upon how good they look on paper and what the talking heads think about them.


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Post by Ktron Thu Nov 18, 2021 10:40 am

RosalieTCeltics wrote:Just think of what the record will be when Steph is done.  Ray Allen was a finese shooter, he worked so hard at his craft, can you imagine how hard Curry has worked?  He will have a total that everyone thinks will never be touched, and then Tre Young is coming along shooting lights out, so we can never say it is a record that will never be broken.  

The Warriors beat the Nets last night and listening to reporters, you would have thought it was a shootout.  Durant only had 19 points.  Just think of how good the Warriors might be when Klay comes back and is more than half the player he was before he went out injured  They are the team to watch, no doubt.  

The conversation on announcers is all a matter of opinion I guess.  National announcers brings my radio out and Sean Grande and Cedric Maxwell for me to enjoy, sometimes I wonder why I don't do it for all games except for Mike.  NBC Sports Boston is not a station I enjoy anymore. If it we not for Mike Gorman I would not listen at all.  Just my opinion, I AM A HOMER, no doubt about that

I love Sean and Max as well. My problem is that when I listen and watch because I’m listening on XM they are usually 30-40 secs behind because of the delay. I think they’d be good to replace Mike whenever he decides to hang up his “Mic” and head sets.

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bobheckler wrote:https://www.yahoo.com/sports/stephen-smith-says-kevin-durant-173951909.html



Stephen A. Smith says Kevin Durant made a mistake coming to Brooklyn: ‘Kyrie Irving betrayed you!’



Nick Schwartz
Wed, November 17, 2021, 9:39 AM



The Brooklyn Nets weren’t in the same class as the Golden State Warriors on Tuesday night, losing by double-digits on their home floor, and Stephen A. Smith eviscerated the team in a fiery segment the next day on ESPN’s First Take.


The Nets were billed as a superteam and an NBA Finals favorite before the season started, but with James Harden struggling to rediscover his MVP form, and with Kyrie Irving out indefinitely over his vaccination stance, Smith believes that Kevin Durant has “no help” and made a mistake by going to Brooklyn over joining the Knicks.

First, Smith called out James Harden, who Smith says needs to get his “act together.”

“Kevin Durant, I’m sad for you, bro. You all alone. You have no help. And more importantly than anything else, you made the wrong decision by going to Brooklyn.

And I’m not talking about this as a Knick fan… Kevin Durant made the wrong decision by going to (Brooklyn), and he’s going to rue the day that he did that.

Let’s analyze why that is, because you’ve got a guy in James Harden – not first year, this is his second year in a row. Mad love for James Harden, you’ve got to get your act together, bro. You ain’t James Harden right now. Averaging 19 points per game, you sitting there struggling from the field. You had 24 points last night, it was the meaningless 24 points that I’ve ever seen from the career of James Harden. You are a superstar, and you are not looking like one.”


Smith then moved on to the Kyrie Irving situation, which he calls a “disgrace.” Smith went as far to say that he hopes the Nets cut Irving over his unwillingness to become eligible to play.

“KD, you made the wrong decision bro, and here’s why: Because you trusted Kyrie. Kyrie Irving betrayed you. Flat out betrayed you. Left you hanging! And while you’re sitting up there getting your (expletive) kicked last night… Steph Curry sitting there shimmying and joking around, laughing on the court, they were cheering for Steph Curry in Brooklyn! From opening tap, they were chanting MVP in the Barclays Center, and it wasn’t for the dude averaging 28.9 points a game for the Brooklyn Nets, it was for Steph Curry.

And then you juxtapose Steph Curry compared to Kyrie Irving, and what do you have? You’ve got Kyrie Irving who is a showstopper. Kyrie Irving who is a superstar talent. He is box office, and can’t be trusted. I actually hope Kyrie Irving gets cut. I mean this is a disgrace to sit up there and watch this team last night look like straight garbage… Every respectable team you go up against waxes y’all behind. And why? Because KD don’t have no help. You’re left there all alone. You don’t have a culture. You don’t even have a damn fanbase.”


Bob
MY NOTE:  "You don’t have a culture. You don’t even have a damn fanbase.”  Stephen A(sshole) Smith better not go over the bridge to Brooklyn for dinner.  What he said might be true but, damn, that's cold!  LOL.  Too bad Championships aren't handed out to teams based upon how good they look on paper and what the talking heads think about them.


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Hey Stephen A, you ever going to tell us why and what you’re doing at all those High Schools?
PS, You do realize that there is a Mic within your vicinity.

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Post by cowens/oldschool Thu Nov 18, 2021 11:56 am

Brooklyn is famous for its culture and all NYers are proud of Brooklyn, living in Manhattan for 16 years, loved traveling over various bridges and seeing, getting a feel for Brooklyn….there’s Peter Lugers and Randazzos, countless great food spots and so many famous people were born there. Mike Tyson, Red Auerbach, Barbara Streisand, Jerry Seinfeld too many to name….

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Post by cowens/oldschool Thu Nov 18, 2021 11:58 am

Once I got enamored and a real feel for Brooklyn, I couldn’t help noticing in Red Auerbach’s voice, it was pure Brooklyn tough guy.

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Post by bobheckler Thu Nov 18, 2021 9:53 pm

cowens/oldschool wrote:Brooklyn is famous for its culture and all NYers are proud of Brooklyn, living in Manhattan for 16 years, loved traveling over various bridges and seeing, getting a feel for Brooklyn….there’s Peter Lugers and Randazzos, countless great food spots and so many famous people were born there. Mike Tyson, Red Auerbach, Barbara Streisand, Jerry Seinfeld too many to name….


Cowens,

Isn't Peter Lugers in Queens, near the Queensborough Bridge?


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Post by cowens/oldschool Fri Nov 19, 2021 1:04 am

bobheckler wrote:
cowens/oldschool wrote:Brooklyn is famous for its culture and all NYers are proud of Brooklyn, living in Manhattan for 16 years, loved traveling over various bridges and seeing, getting a feel for Brooklyn….there’s Peter Lugers and Randazzos, countless great food spots and so many famous people were born there. Mike Tyson, Red Auerbach, Barbara Streisand, Jerry Seinfeld too many to name….


Cowens,

Isn't Peter Lugers in Queens,  near the Queensborough Bridge?


Bob


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Hey Bob welcome back, there’s 2, the famous one is in Williamsburg and there is another one in Great Neck, that might be the one your thinking of….

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Post by bobheckler Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:23 pm

Last night, in the Lakers-Pistons game, LeBron clipped Isaiah Stewart in the face with an elbow.  Bloodied him.  Stewart went after LeBron like a crazy man.  Both got ejected.

Both should get suspended, in my opinion.  That elbow by LeBron was not an accident, no matter what Frank Vogel says, and Stewart completely lost it on court.

LA was losing to the Pistons at that point.  

Has LeBum ever been ejected before in his career?




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Post by NYCelt Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:54 pm

bobheckler wrote:Last night, in the Lakers-Pistons game, LeBron clipped Isaiah Stewart in the face with an elbow.  Bloodied him.  Stewart went after LeBron like a crazy man.  Both got ejected.

Both should get suspended, in my opinion.  That elbow by LeBron was not an accident, no matter what Frank Vogel says, and Stewart completely lost it on court.

LA was losing to the Pistons at that point.  

Has LeBum ever been ejected before in his career?




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As I've posted here before, Isaiah is a local kid and has played in our area Sectional tourney (last year I'm sponsoring, coming up. It's been fun.) I'm going to state my bias up front. He's a great kid and as big a physical specimen as he is, he's not the type to get into anything unless he's provoked. He's chatted and played XBox with my son and his buddies and we all like him, even though he went to a big rival school before going Prep. There's my disclaimer. You know what's coming next.

No way he gets that worked up unless he feels like he's been attacked. That was no accident. LeBron has been able to physically dominate for years, but he's not shoving this kid around. Isaiah can body up anyone in the league, and that includes the guy who thinks he's the king. They'll both pay the price, but that was a cheap shot by James. I hope James is ready, next time Isaiah will be looking to make a point. Better cut the crap queen James.

OK, there's my homer rant for the day.
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