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Post by bobheckler Wed Jun 22, 2022 7:02 pm

Starting this a bit early since I'm on the west coast and by the time I get going tomorrow deals may already be announced.

All actual trades, picks and/or players, should go here.  If you want to add rumors, go ahead I guess, as long as it's clear they aren't confirmed yet.  If Woj or Shams say it's happening that's good enough for me.  They probably know before the owners do anyway.   Very Happy


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Post by bobheckler Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:32 pm

Prakash mentioned this on the Pre-Draft Day thread but I'm going to add it here so we can all take this into account on Thursday.


Portland gets Jerami Grant, #46 pick in the 2022 draft.
Detroit gets a 2025 1st round pick via Milwaukee, the #36 pick in the 2022 draft and a whopping $21M TPE.




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Post by prakash Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:12 pm

Just that the TPE will vanish as they are a way below the cap team. Likely destination for Ayton? That will mean that Begly will become a free agent.

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Post by gyso Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:30 pm

Here are some links:

https://sports.yahoo.com/nba/draft/?fr=sycsrp_catchall

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/draft/draft-tracker/

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/draft/

https://www.nba.com/news/2022-offseason-trade-tracker

https://thegameday.com/nba/draft/tracker/

https://www.espn.com/nba/draft/live

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/how-to-watch-the-2022-nba-draft/ar-AAYKYZR




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Post by bobheckler Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:22 am

https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2022/06/payton-pritchard-grant-williams-available-in-celtics-trade-talks-for-the-right-price-report.html


Payton Pritchard, Grant Williams available in Celtics trade talks ‘for the right price’ (report)


Published: Jun. 23, 2022, 7:53 a.m.


By Brian Robb | brobb@masslive.com



The Celtics are without a first round pick in the 2022 NBA Draft after dealing away one as part of a trade package for Derrick White at the trade deadline back in February. However, the rumblings continue that Boston is looking to move back into the first round of Thursday night’s draft.

Jake Fischer of Bleacher Report indicated in his latest report that the Celtics are one of four teams (Detroit, Utah, Indiana) looking to acquire picks in the back half of the first round. He also signaled that the Celtics appeared ‘willing’ to engage in trade talks on young rotation players such as Payton Pritchard and Grant Williams ‘for the right price.’ The Celtics have also been linked to trade interest in the Warriors’ first round pick at No. 28 overall.


Brad Stevens and Boston’s front office likely hold both of these young players in high regard after Boston’s run to the NBA Finals. Williams is coming off a career year in which he shot 41.1 percent from 3-point range and averaged 7.8 points per game as Boston’s sixth man for much of the year.

Pritchard shook off a slow start to the season after suffering a broken nose and rebounded to shoot a team-best 41.2 percent from 3-point range over 71 games. Both players had strong postseasons before struggling late in the NBA Finals as the Celtics lose three consecutive games for the first time since December.


Both Williams and Pritchard are still on their rookie contracts, which should make them appealing to potential suitors. Williams has one more year left on his contract for $4.3 million and is eligible for an extension this summer. Pritchard has two years left on his deal for a combined $6.4 million.

Boston currently holds just the No. 53 overall pick in the NBA Draft.


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MY NOTE:  Surprising, but not shocking.  Buy low, sell high and Grant is riding pretty high right now.  Pritchard looks good too, but had a bad Finals.  They are in Ime's top 8 but Ime really didn't have anybody below 8.  That's what makes Grant and Payton 'key reserves' as much as anything, there weren't any 'key reserves' behind them on the depth chart.  This will be interesting.  Trader Danny always dangled players but usually didn't trade them unless he thought he was fleecing the other guy.  Let's see what Brad the Barterer is like when he doesn't have to make significant changes like he had to do last year with Kemba and even Schroder.

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Post by dboss Thu Jun 23, 2022 11:14 am

I do not think Grant has a very high ceiling. PP is an excellent shooter but not much of a playmaker or switch everything guy.

Our record for finding quality picks in the second half of the draft has not been good. However Brad has never drafted a player.

Is it possible that Yam may be added to the roster if PP is moved? Yam is a more natural PG.

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Post by Ktron Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:36 pm

Celtics Linked to 26-Year-Old Defensive Guard as Offseason Trade Target



The Boston Celtics don’t need to make any major moves this summer. They were two wins away from taking home their 18th NBA Championship and every player in their regular rotation will be on the roster next season. The only player who will be an unrestricted free agent is Luke Kornet.
However, just because Boston doesn’t need to make big-time changes doesn’t mean they won’t explore the trade market. It’s unlikely that they part ways with any of their core players, but they don’t have to. Their TPEs will allow them to trade picks in exchange for players who can help them win now.
One player who was brought up as a potential trade target for Boston using their TPE was Dillon Brooks of the Memphis Grizzlies. The idea was brought up by Yossi Gazlan of HoopsHype when discussing potential offseason trade options for Boston.
“Some players they could pursue with their trade exceptions include… Dillon Brooks… The Celtics have all their future first-round picks to offer going forward, and they’ve shown a willingness to trade them when they traded one for Horford and another for White since Stevens took over,” Gozlan wrote.

However, Brooks was crucial to Memphis’ success this past season, so trading him may not be on their offseason to-do list. There’s only one reason why they would trade him.

Why Grizzlies Would Trade Brooks
Memphis just wrapped up a phenomenal season that saw them finish second in the Western Conference. They were eliminated in the second round of the playoffs by the eventual champions, the Golden State Warriors, but they also had to deal with the loss of superstar point guard Ja Morant in the second round.
Brooks was a crucial member of their squad, however, he only appeared in 32 regular-season games for the Grizzlies this past year due to an ankle injury. That being said, he was able to play in 11 of the Grizzlies’ 12 playoff games, missing just one game due to a suspension.
During the regular season, Brooks averaged 18.4 points, 3.2 rebounds, and 2.8 assists on 43.2% shooting from the field and 30.9% shooting from distance. He averaged 27.7 minutes per game.

However, the one reason Memphis could look to trade Brooks this summer. Next season will be the last year of Brooks’ contract, and he’s set to make $11.4 million. He’ll likely be looking to get paid, so if the Grizzlies aren’t interested in being the one to pay him, they could look to move him.
Brooks would be an ideal fit in Boston.

Brooks’ Fit on Celtics
As noted by Gozlan, the Celtics should be looking for help on the wing this summer. More specifically, players that can defend well and hit threes.

“The Celtics’ biggest need in free agency is a 3-and-D wing player who can give Tatum and Brown some relief,” Gozlan wrote.
Brooks is a great on-ball defender who plays with tremendous energy, and while he didn’t shoot the ball particularly well from deep last year, he’s a career 34.8% shooter from distance, which is passable.

The 26-year-old wing would likely be nothing more than a one-year rental, but in that one year, he could provide the Celtics with some much-needed support.

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Post by dboss Thu Jun 23, 2022 1:57 pm

If the playoffs showed us anything it is that shooting is a premium.

I like Dillon Brooks overall but our 3rd wing guy must be able to knock down shots at a high level. He does not do that. Therefore, I would pass on that deal.

We already have 2 fringe guys on the team in terms of shooting.
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Post by prakash Thu Jun 23, 2022 3:09 pm

Plus the premise is all garbage. Memphis, an on the rise team with rich management, sending Brooks, to an over the tax Celtics, to cut cost.

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Post by bobheckler Thu Jun 23, 2022 4:27 pm


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Cleveland is acquiring Sacramento's pick at 49 in tonight's NBA draft for the rights to Sasha Vezenkov, sources tell ESPN. Vezenkov, 26, was a first-team All-EuroLeague forward this season. He was the 57th pick in the 2017 NBA Draft.
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Post by bobheckler Thu Jun 23, 2022 4:29 pm


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The Los Angeles Lakers acquired Orlando's pick at No. 35 for a future second-round pick and cash, sources tell ESPN.
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Post by bobheckler Thu Jun 23, 2022 4:37 pm

Adrian Wojnarowski is reporting if star Kyrie Irving and the Brooklyn Nets don’t reach an agreement, Irving has a list of desired destinations to go to in a sign-and-trade. The list includes the Lakers, Los Angeles Clippers, New York Knicks, Miami Heat, Dallas Mavericks, and Philadelphia 76ers. According to Wojnarowski, none of those teams have cap space to sign Irving without Brooklyn’s help.


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MY NOTE:  I'm wounded that Boston isn't on that list.  Boohoo... Laughing


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Post by bobheckler Thu Jun 23, 2022 4:40 pm

Hawks View Kings’ Offer For John Collins As “Underwhelming”


June 23rd, 2022 at 1:58pm CST by Arthur Hill


The Kings have been actively trying to acquire John Collins, but Atlanta isn’t impressed by Sacramento’s latest offer, according to Sam Amick of The Athletic. His sources say the Hawks consider it “underwhelming.”

The reported offer for Collins includes veteran forward Harrison Barnes, but not the No. 4 pick in tonight’s draft. The trade would likely have been completed already if Sacramento was willing to part with that, Amick adds.

Amick also addresses Wednesday night’s report that the Hawks have talked to the Spurs about Dejounte Murray. He states that Atlanta officials believe San Antonio’s current asking price is “exorbitant” and although the teams aren’t close to an agreement, Amick believes it’s a situation to watch.

Also, sources tell Amick that the Hawks’ reported interest in Jazz center Rudy Gobert has been exaggerated. Atlanta still values Clint Capela, who has a good relationship with Trae Young. Financial considerations also point toward keeping Capela, who is owed $61MM over the next three seasons compared to $169MM over four years for Gobert, including a player option for 2025/26.


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Post by bobheckler Thu Jun 23, 2022 5:02 pm

Sources tell Jeremy Woo of Sports Illustrated that the Bucks are contemplating moving up or down with the No. 24 pick. Woo projects Arizona guard/forward Dalen Terry to Milwaukee at 24 within his latest mock draft, assuming the team keeps the pick.


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MY NOTE:  Rumors are that Brad wants to move up into the lower 1st round (why?).  The Milwaukee pick fits that bill.


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Post by bobheckler Thu Jun 23, 2022 5:06 pm

Adam Himmelsbach @AdamHimmelsbach
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Asked a couple of people what the Celtics’ night was looking like. One said “slow” and another said “boring.” Happy draft day lol.


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MY NOTE:  If Danny were still here this would mean that there'd be fireworks and blockbuster deals.  The bigger the denial, the bigger the deal with Danny.  Let's see with Brad.


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Post by prakash Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:01 pm

If the Celts do find a way to move up in the draft, perhaps EJ Liddell will fit the bill. But then, we already have Grant Williams.

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Post by dboss Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:32 pm

I like the kid out of Arizona who may be there early 2nd round.  We need to draft another center now if possible.
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Post by Matty Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:18 pm

just a few thoughts before the fireworks.


 charlotte is offers # 13 or 15 for someone to take GH off their hands


 White + Theis does the trick


 Pistons are offering #23  if someone takes Green (who may not play all during the regular season)  he is slated to make 10 million and we have a TOE which can cover that.. 


 we'd still have TPe's of 7.1/ 6.9 and 5.9 million to work with the 13th pick and 23rd


 and a MLE come free agency..


 the remaining exceptions along with the 2 firsts and a future first could bring home 3 very nice players
 
Not saying i want this to happen, or see it coming, but just highlighting the many many possibilities.
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Post by worcester Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:09 pm

GH for two years at $31M per year? He played in 48 and 49 games the last two years.

Derrick White - about $17M a year.
Daniel Theis - about $8.5M a year.

Yes the $$ almost works - but we'd become even thinner at PG and center, weaker on D, and tied to a fragile player. A sturdy, 82 games per season Gordon? Sure. But he is not that guy.
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Post by bobheckler Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:42 am

PER CBS SPORTS:


53. Boston Celtics: PG J.D. Davison, Alabama

Low-risk, high-reward proposition in grabbing a former five-star recruit in Davison who has an excellent prospect pedigree but struggled last season with Alabama. He's still learning and feeling out the game but he's a tremendous athlete with great burst and real long-term developmental upside. Grade: A-


6'3", 195#.


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Post by prakash Fri Jun 24, 2022 1:03 am

19 years old, very athletic and lost on the court! As long as there is some dimension that is special. Looks like his athletic ability.

Quite a good gamble at 53. Remember what TimeLord looked like when he was drafted? But then, he was a big (and the comparison is a massive stretch, I know).

Perhaps he will become a serviceable player after spending some time around more mature mentors.

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Pre-Draft Analysis

March 15, 2022: (2022 NBA mock draft: Drafting players competing in the NCAA tournament) -- Davison entered the college game known as a YouTube sensation thanks to his explosive dunking ability, but quickly showed there's more to his game, showing impressive feel as a passer and real grit defensively. He has an excellent physical profile for a guard, which has allowed him to play on and off the ball for Alabama, who has beaten some of the best teams in college while racking up plenty of confusing losses. Offense has been a major struggle at times for Davison, who isn't a polished ball-handler or a consistent shooter. It's clear that Davison's struggles as a scorer and concerningly high turnover rate make him more of a long-term prospect, which has allowed more productive guards to jump ahead of him as the season has moved on. Finishing on a strong note will be important considering the way Davison's productivity has fluctuated, something that may make returning for another season in college appealing (or necessary) depending on how his season ends. -- Jonathan Givony

March 9, 2022: (Stock Watch) -- Alabama has been one of the more confusing teams in college basketball this season, posting wins over several Final Four contenders such as Gonzaga, Baylor, Houston, Tennessee, LSU, Arkansas, while losing to the likes of Missouri, Georgia, Iona, Davidson, and Texas A&M.

Davison has been equally inconsistent, alternating between starting, coming off the bench and playing a limited role at different points in the season, while posting scintillating performances at times or going scoreless in others.

Freshmen like Davison, who hails from the small town of Letohatchee, Alabama, and played at a very low level in high school were particularly hurt by the opportunities eliminated by the pandemic, at least from an experience standpoint.

Davison's 28% turnover percentage will be the highest of any player drafted in the past decade, as being thrown straight into the gauntlet of SEC defenses has been a definite learning experience.

Offense has been somewhat of a challenge for Davison, whose 12.7 points per-40 is the second-lowest of any college player currently projected to be drafted. His ball-handling ability is a major work in progress, as he's struggled considerably to generate efficient shots for himself in pick and roll and one on one situations this season, clearly not looking ready to be a primary creator at this level of competition. That's compounded by Davison's struggles shooting off the dribble, as he's hit just 24% (8-for-34) of his pull-up jumpers this season according to Synergy Sports Technology.

Davison has had plenty of outstanding moments this season that hint at great things to come down the road for a team willing to be patient with his development. He's a highly unselfish, creative passer who uses his size effectively to pick apart defenses driving and dishing in a variety of situations, but especially in the open court. He's one of the best rebounding guards in this draft and regularly busts out off the defensive glass and finds teammates off a live dribble. There aren't many guards in the college game who show the flashes he does changing gears out of hesitation moves, absorbing contact in the lane and finishing explosively at the rim, something that can hopefully be developed further in time.

Playing alongside two ball-dominant, upperclassmen guards in Jahvon Quinerly and Jaden Shackelford, Davison has been forced to take a backseat and play on the wing much more than he likely expected, which has allowed him to show some better-than-expected ability to hit spot-up jumpers, converting 37% of his attempts on the season with his feet set.

Defensively, Davison checks anyone from point guard to power forwards in Alabama's switch-heavy scheme, bringing a level of physicality the team has sorely lacked at times this season, while proving to be a real playmaker by getting in passing lanes, blocking jump-shots and crashing the glass effectively. He's far from perfect on this end of the floor, at times getting caught losing his focus or flat-footed off the ball, but has been able to stay on the floor through his offensive struggles in no small part due to the versatility and effectiveness he brings here.

Davison's standing has dropped somewhat relative to where he started the season as more productive college guards have eclipsed him. A strong finish to the season, starting in the SEC tournament, which will be packed with NBA talent evaluators, and then the NCAA tournament, would certainly help. Taking the Jaden Ivey route, a player he's at times compared to by NBA executives, could have some merit. The Purdue guard was considered a potential late first-round pick at the end of his freshman season but is now likely to be picked in the top-5 after a breakout sophomore season. There are advantages to both strategies and Davison will have a decision to make in the next month or so on which route he'll elect to take. -- Mike Schmitz

December 22, 2021: (Mock Draft) -- Even though he comes off the bench for a strong Alabama squad, the point guard has looked the part of a potential lottery pick. Over his past five contests, he's posted averages of 11 points, 5.6 rebounds, 5.2 assists and 1.2 steals in just 25.4 minutes while shooting 61% from 2 and 42% from 3.

I evaluated Davison in person earlier this month during his 20-point explosion in a win over Gonzaga and his 10-assist night in a loss to Memphis. I also sat down in Memphis with the 19-year-old to break down his film. While his high-flying dunks helped him become an RSCI top-15 prospect in his high school class, Davison's passing has been a revelation this season. He's a one-man fast break with the ability to spray the ball to shooters, even off a live dribble. He can diagnose pick-and-roll coverages, hitting the roll player in stride or making corner skips.

On top of the passing, he's done a great job making what head coach Nate Oats calls "blue collar plays." He's an elite rebounder for a guard who hammered home the game-winning tip dunk against Houston. He's still improving his defensive discipline and off-ball consistency, but the tools, instincts and anticipation are there to become a plus defender in the NBA.

Now it's about Davison evolving as a ballhandler and a more dynamic pull-up shooter -- he's made just two pull-up jumpers in 271 minutes. Teams have darted under screens, daring him to punish them from 3, which he's not willing to do and limits him as a half-court scorer. His spot-up 3 is ahead of where scouts expected and part of the lack of pull-ups is by design, as Alabama doesn't shoot midrange jumpers, emphasizing 3s and layups. But adding a consistent pull-up 3 will help steer comparisons closer toward Tyrese Maxey as opposed to Elfrid Payton.

Overall, Davison has made his case that he belongs in the conversation as the best non-Jaden Ivey guard in the draft, and the fact that he plays a key role on an Alabama team with the potential for a deep run into March bodes well for his draft stock. -- Mike Schmitz

Post-Draft Analysis

Davison entered the college game known as a YouTube sensation thanks to his explosive dunking ability. He also demonstrated there's more to his game, showing some feel as a passer and a willingness to mix things up defensively. He has a solid physical profile for a guard, which allowed him to play on and off the ball for Alabama, who had a very inconsistent season. Offense was a major struggle at times for Davison, who isn't a polished ball handler or a consistent shooter, and turned the ball over at an alarmingly high rate. It's clear that Davison's struggles as a scorer and decision-maker make him more of a long-term prospect, which allowed more productive guards to jump ahead of him as the season moved on and on draft night. -- Jonathan Givony

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