The Baylor Scheierman Thread
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I was just watching a video hosted by Gary Tanguay, with Bob Ryan and Jeff Goodman and Tanguay wanted to talk about our #30 pick, "Baylor SKYLERMAN". Not "Sheerman" or something at least close. He was corrected by Goodman and then STILL repeated it wrong.
HOW is this unprepared fool on the air?! Who does he have naked pictures of?
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HOW is this unprepared fool on the air?! Who does he have naked pictures of?
Bob
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bobheckler- Posts : 62620
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All Hail Brad Stevens!! Dang, he did it again. I like every word that proceeds out of Baylor's mouth. Sounds like he's been sitting in on Celtic practices and game huddles if I didn't know any better. Defense ala Boston Celtic can only be taught and learned on the job no matter how good a defender you are coming in pr where you are from.
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gyso wrote:Baylor Shooterman - Double Nickel:
GYSO,
Joe Johnson signed a 10-day contract and played a grand total of 2 minutes in green in 2021-2022.
Before him was E'twuan Moore. Drafted by the Celtics @ #55. Wore #55. Played a total of 331 minutes in green in 2011-2012.
Before E'Twuan was Eric Williams, who played 513 minutes in green in 2003-2004, his 2nd stint with us.
So, yeah, technically Joe Johson was the last. For 1:57 in a 10 point win in Boston vs Cleveland. We were up 15 with 2 left when Brad sent in Joe, CJ Miles, Bruno Fernando, Justin Jackson. The 4 of them went -5 in those 1:57 to "only" win by 10. Joe's 10-day contract expired, it was not renewed and that was the end of his career. He got 10 days more than he should have, he was done.
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30. Boston Celtics
Baylor Scheierman | 6-6 wing | 23 years old | Creighton
Vecenie’s ranking: 22
Baylor Scheierman is an intriguing bet as a role player in the NBA with his shooting and comfort as a decision-maker. You get a real floor spacer who can run off movement and knock down shots. He can also attack closeouts and make quick reads. Scheierman is not going to be for everyone, but I bet that teams with schemes that involve a lot of motion and movement will love him. He processes the game very well at speed, even with his athletic deficiencies, and knows how to play within structure and scheme. He’ll make extra passes and will help on the glass, lead fast breaks and then in the half court will help your primary playmakers by being a shooter whom defenders must guard tightly. His defense is the big question. Can he consistently chase and play in help? Can he defend on the ball? It’ll all be about maximizing his frame and body and getting the absolute most out of his quickness. I have a clear first-round grade on him, though, given the importance of shooting at size in today’s NBA.
Hollinger’s analysis: The Celtics double down on the 3-point bonanza of a year ago by selecting a guy who took 13.3 3-point attempts per 100 possessions a year ago and made 38.1 percent of them. Scheierman is the oldest legit top-40 prospect in this draft, but he was also the best player on the court at the Hoop Summit (many top prospects didn’t play, however), and he fits Boston’s system like a glove.
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Baylor Scheierman | 6-6 wing | 23 years old | Creighton
Vecenie’s ranking: 22
Baylor Scheierman is an intriguing bet as a role player in the NBA with his shooting and comfort as a decision-maker. You get a real floor spacer who can run off movement and knock down shots. He can also attack closeouts and make quick reads. Scheierman is not going to be for everyone, but I bet that teams with schemes that involve a lot of motion and movement will love him. He processes the game very well at speed, even with his athletic deficiencies, and knows how to play within structure and scheme. He’ll make extra passes and will help on the glass, lead fast breaks and then in the half court will help your primary playmakers by being a shooter whom defenders must guard tightly. His defense is the big question. Can he consistently chase and play in help? Can he defend on the ball? It’ll all be about maximizing his frame and body and getting the absolute most out of his quickness. I have a clear first-round grade on him, though, given the importance of shooting at size in today’s NBA.
Hollinger’s analysis: The Celtics double down on the 3-point bonanza of a year ago by selecting a guy who took 13.3 3-point attempts per 100 possessions a year ago and made 38.1 percent of them. Scheierman is the oldest legit top-40 prospect in this draft, but he was also the best player on the court at the Hoop Summit (many top prospects didn’t play, however), and he fits Boston’s system like a glove.
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You can tell he's older and has had A LOT of media gaggles. He always says the right things, not starry-eyed at all.
He was asked who he has modeled his game after. I liked his answer. I love smart, high IQ players.
And willya look at those shoulders!! Football quarterback indeed.
Turns out at least some of the Summer League players have been working out, learning plays etc, for a few days now.
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He was asked who he has modeled his game after. I liked his answer. I love smart, high IQ players.
And willya look at those shoulders!! Football quarterback indeed.
Turns out at least some of the Summer League players have been working out, learning plays etc, for a few days now.
Bob
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He looked good, can do a lot of things
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https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5797565/2024/09/27/boston-celtics-baylor-scheierman-rookie-offseason/?source=freedailyemail&campaign=601983&userId=13921316
Celtics’ Baylor Scheierman prepped for dirty work after bulking up in offseason
LAS VEGAS, NEVADA - JULY 16: Baylor Scheierman #55 of the Boston Celtics poses for a portrait during the 2024 NBA Rookie Photo Shoot at UNLV on July 16, 2024 in Las Vegas, Nevada. (Photo by Monica Schipper/Getty Images)
By Jay King
Sep 27, 2024
BOSTON — In the Brad Stevens front office era, now entering its fourth season, Baylor Scheirman stands out as an oddity. He is the lone first-round pick Stevens has held onto as Celtics president of basketball operations. Whenever Scheierman makes his Boston debut, he will become the first, first-round rookie to suit up for the franchise since Aaron Nesmith and Payton Pritchard did so during the 2020-21 season.
Before Scheierman, Stevens had traded the team’s first-round pick in three consecutive seasons. Scheierman broke that trend. His draft status could come with pressure, but the Celtics’ rare depth should leave Scheierman with time to develop behind the scenes if he’s not ready to play right away. Of course, like any other rookie, he will be trying to play immediately. After Boston’s second day of training camp Wednesday, Scheierman detailed what he has worked on to begin the adjustment to the NBA game.
“I think, from summer league to now, I spent a lot of time on my body, working on my body, trying to put on a lot of lean mass,” Scheierman said. “I’ve been able to gain 10-15 pounds in that area. Also, just working on my shot, continuing to tune up things, try to get it off quicker. I’ve been working with (assistant coach) Craig (Luschenat) and Sam Hauser a lot, and they’ve been giving me a lot of great tips and tricks to try to do that in the game.”
Scheierman measured 6-foot-6 and 202 pounds at the NBA combine. The extra weight should help him hold up against the league’s stronger wings. He said the Celtics asked him to put on additional muscle to prepare for his rookie season and have been “very pleased” with his progress.
Though he produced much of his offense from the perimeter in college, Scheierman also recorded more defensive rebounds over his career than any other Division I player since at least the 1999-00 season. The numbers are skewed in his favor to some extent because he was allowed to play a fifth college season, like other players in the COVID era, but he was nonetheless a top defensive rebounder for his position while at Creighton and South Dakota State. Should his ability to clean up the glass translate to the NBA level, it could eventually help him make a case for minutes at power forward as well as small forward.
Bulking up could pay dividends. How did Scheierman put on so much weight over a single offseason?
“I changed my diet,” Scheierman said. “Shout out to (team chef) Steve (Bekerian) in the kitchen, helping me figure out things. It’s nice to have the kitchen here, something that I’m able to take advantage of while I’m in the facility, able to get two or three meals in here a day. Then, also just taking Creatine, I’m trying to shed off some of that fat.”
The Celtics first hosted Scheierman for a predraft workout in 2022, shortly after he wrapped up his final season at South Dakota State. The sharpshooter later transferred to Creighton, where he averaged 12.8 points per game in his first season with the program before emerging as a third-team AP All-American the following season. Scheierman averaged 18.5 points and 9.0 rebounds per game during his final NCAA campaign while shooting 38.1 percent on a high volume of 3-point attempts. The Celtics were impressed as Scheierman began to transform his body in the Big East.
Shot-making will become more difficult against NBA defenses. Scheierman said he has tried to learn from Hauser, who ranked 11th in 3-point percentage last season. The two were paired in the same workout group at the Celtics practice facility early in the offseason.
“He’s one of the best shooters in the league and was one of the key parts on the championship team last year,” Scheierman said. “So, just working out with him and just seeing, not only on the court, but his routine in general, how he prepares for workouts, what he does after his workouts – workouts just sharing different tips about how to get your shot off quicker.”
The Celtics hope Scheierman won’t strictly be a shooter.
“He’s a good shooter, but he’s a lot more than a shooter,” Hauser said. “He’s got a really good feel for the game. He’s pretty crafty.”
Over the first two days of practices, Joe Mazzulla said Scheierman began to adjust to the new level of physicality.
“I think Day 1, it’s very difficult to adjust to NBA defense,” Mazzulla said. “I thought from Day 1 to Day 2, he made the physical adjustment, and he had some great physical defensive plays today. So, I think that’s the trajectory (you want). Any young player coming into it, the most important thing is: Can you play defense, can you execute a defensive system and can you rebound? And he got better at that from Day 1.”
As Mazzulla’s comments suggested, the Celtics want Scheierman to keep focusing on the dirty work. He believes he should be OK on offense, but knows the other side of the court could dictate whether he receives a chance to play. With Boston returning almost everyone from a championship team, the 24-year-old would need to make quite an impression to earn regular minutes.
“Offensively, I feel very confident in myself being able to impact the game on the floor,” Scheierman said. “I know that in order for me to get minutes on the floor, it’s all going to come down to the defense. So, that’s where I’m trying to hang my hat on and just trying to get better every single day in that category.”
Pritchard likes the mentality he has seen so far from Celtics rookies Scheierman and Anton Watson.
“I feel like Brad does a great job of drafting people who are ready to compete and know how to play the right way,” Pritchard said. “And I feel like those two factors right there means they should have a successful NBA career. They’re willing to put in the work, and they’re never going to back down. So, right there should tell you everything you need to know about them.”
Bob
MY NOTE: Baller Shooterman turned 24 yesterday. He is an OLD rookie, especially in a league that drafts a lot of 19 year olds. Personally, I like this. His body is more developed, his game is more advanced than some kid that needs to be brought along slowly because they're only one year out of High School. I don't know how many minutes he'll get this year but it'll be a great experience for him, even if most of it is in Maine and his learning curve will flatten out nicely precisely because he is older, I expect.
10-15# is A LOT of weight to add in < 3 months. He wasn't super fast before, it'll be interested to see if he lost any of whatever he did have.
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Celtics’ Baylor Scheierman prepped for dirty work after bulking up in offseason
LAS VEGAS, NEVADA - JULY 16: Baylor Scheierman #55 of the Boston Celtics poses for a portrait during the 2024 NBA Rookie Photo Shoot at UNLV on July 16, 2024 in Las Vegas, Nevada. (Photo by Monica Schipper/Getty Images)
By Jay King
Sep 27, 2024
BOSTON — In the Brad Stevens front office era, now entering its fourth season, Baylor Scheirman stands out as an oddity. He is the lone first-round pick Stevens has held onto as Celtics president of basketball operations. Whenever Scheierman makes his Boston debut, he will become the first, first-round rookie to suit up for the franchise since Aaron Nesmith and Payton Pritchard did so during the 2020-21 season.
Before Scheierman, Stevens had traded the team’s first-round pick in three consecutive seasons. Scheierman broke that trend. His draft status could come with pressure, but the Celtics’ rare depth should leave Scheierman with time to develop behind the scenes if he’s not ready to play right away. Of course, like any other rookie, he will be trying to play immediately. After Boston’s second day of training camp Wednesday, Scheierman detailed what he has worked on to begin the adjustment to the NBA game.
“I think, from summer league to now, I spent a lot of time on my body, working on my body, trying to put on a lot of lean mass,” Scheierman said. “I’ve been able to gain 10-15 pounds in that area. Also, just working on my shot, continuing to tune up things, try to get it off quicker. I’ve been working with (assistant coach) Craig (Luschenat) and Sam Hauser a lot, and they’ve been giving me a lot of great tips and tricks to try to do that in the game.”
Scheierman measured 6-foot-6 and 202 pounds at the NBA combine. The extra weight should help him hold up against the league’s stronger wings. He said the Celtics asked him to put on additional muscle to prepare for his rookie season and have been “very pleased” with his progress.
Though he produced much of his offense from the perimeter in college, Scheierman also recorded more defensive rebounds over his career than any other Division I player since at least the 1999-00 season. The numbers are skewed in his favor to some extent because he was allowed to play a fifth college season, like other players in the COVID era, but he was nonetheless a top defensive rebounder for his position while at Creighton and South Dakota State. Should his ability to clean up the glass translate to the NBA level, it could eventually help him make a case for minutes at power forward as well as small forward.
Bulking up could pay dividends. How did Scheierman put on so much weight over a single offseason?
“I changed my diet,” Scheierman said. “Shout out to (team chef) Steve (Bekerian) in the kitchen, helping me figure out things. It’s nice to have the kitchen here, something that I’m able to take advantage of while I’m in the facility, able to get two or three meals in here a day. Then, also just taking Creatine, I’m trying to shed off some of that fat.”
The Celtics first hosted Scheierman for a predraft workout in 2022, shortly after he wrapped up his final season at South Dakota State. The sharpshooter later transferred to Creighton, where he averaged 12.8 points per game in his first season with the program before emerging as a third-team AP All-American the following season. Scheierman averaged 18.5 points and 9.0 rebounds per game during his final NCAA campaign while shooting 38.1 percent on a high volume of 3-point attempts. The Celtics were impressed as Scheierman began to transform his body in the Big East.
Shot-making will become more difficult against NBA defenses. Scheierman said he has tried to learn from Hauser, who ranked 11th in 3-point percentage last season. The two were paired in the same workout group at the Celtics practice facility early in the offseason.
“He’s one of the best shooters in the league and was one of the key parts on the championship team last year,” Scheierman said. “So, just working out with him and just seeing, not only on the court, but his routine in general, how he prepares for workouts, what he does after his workouts – workouts just sharing different tips about how to get your shot off quicker.”
The Celtics hope Scheierman won’t strictly be a shooter.
“He’s a good shooter, but he’s a lot more than a shooter,” Hauser said. “He’s got a really good feel for the game. He’s pretty crafty.”
Over the first two days of practices, Joe Mazzulla said Scheierman began to adjust to the new level of physicality.
“I think Day 1, it’s very difficult to adjust to NBA defense,” Mazzulla said. “I thought from Day 1 to Day 2, he made the physical adjustment, and he had some great physical defensive plays today. So, I think that’s the trajectory (you want). Any young player coming into it, the most important thing is: Can you play defense, can you execute a defensive system and can you rebound? And he got better at that from Day 1.”
As Mazzulla’s comments suggested, the Celtics want Scheierman to keep focusing on the dirty work. He believes he should be OK on offense, but knows the other side of the court could dictate whether he receives a chance to play. With Boston returning almost everyone from a championship team, the 24-year-old would need to make quite an impression to earn regular minutes.
“Offensively, I feel very confident in myself being able to impact the game on the floor,” Scheierman said. “I know that in order for me to get minutes on the floor, it’s all going to come down to the defense. So, that’s where I’m trying to hang my hat on and just trying to get better every single day in that category.”
Pritchard likes the mentality he has seen so far from Celtics rookies Scheierman and Anton Watson.
“I feel like Brad does a great job of drafting people who are ready to compete and know how to play the right way,” Pritchard said. “And I feel like those two factors right there means they should have a successful NBA career. They’re willing to put in the work, and they’re never going to back down. So, right there should tell you everything you need to know about them.”
Bob
MY NOTE: Baller Shooterman turned 24 yesterday. He is an OLD rookie, especially in a league that drafts a lot of 19 year olds. Personally, I like this. His body is more developed, his game is more advanced than some kid that needs to be brought along slowly because they're only one year out of High School. I don't know how many minutes he'll get this year but it'll be a great experience for him, even if most of it is in Maine and his learning curve will flatten out nicely precisely because he is older, I expect.
10-15# is A LOT of weight to add in < 3 months. He wasn't super fast before, it'll be interested to see if he lost any of whatever he did have.
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My focus for Baylor will be his defense. Can he stay with his man, switch onto a PG or drop down to cover a big? He is going to get open looks in our pace and space offense.
If he cannot play both side of the ball, it is highly unlikely that he somehow becomes an every day rotation guy. I think Walsh and maybe Springer could earn some minutes over Baylor.
This is what makes preseason so interesting. Guys making a case for regular season minutes.
If he cannot play both side of the ball, it is highly unlikely that he somehow becomes an every day rotation guy. I think Walsh and maybe Springer could earn some minutes over Baylor.
This is what makes preseason so interesting. Guys making a case for regular season minutes.
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Yep. Joe's bench theorem is steadfast and true. Assume you can score at will, then prove D = PT or (-)D = Maine.
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dboss wrote:My focus for Baylor will be his defense. Can he stay with his man, switch onto a PG or drop down to cover a big? He is going to get open looks in our pace and space offense.
If he cannot play both side of the ball, it is highly unlikely that he somehow becomes an every day rotation guy. I think Walsh and maybe Springer could earn some minutes over Baylor.
This is what makes preseason so interesting. Guys making a case for regular season minutes.
+1 DBoss
Sam Hauser is a terrific shooter, but the reason he is a rotation is his defense. Everyone, myself included, thought Sam would be targeted and easy pickens on defense. Well we were pleasantly surprised because not only did Sam hold his own, he actually became a pretty darn good defender.
Same thing here. If this kid can play good D, he's got a chance.
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