Lonnie Walker
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Re: Lonnie Walker
Regarding our title defense this upcoming season, clearly the focus will be on how much notable forward progress is made with the Bigs/Al/KP/Tillman/Kornet race as well as how much more Eddie House-like of a spark plug/bombardier our bench crew becomes. Our bench didn't scare me this playoff season as an opponent. Yes, I jumped out of my seat a couple of times, but I did not fear our bench from the opponent's perspective that I need to see and need to feel.
The Core 4 of DW, JB, JT and JH are about as solid as you can ask for. I have nothing to add to these guys for the upcoming season except carry on!!
We'll see these things right out of the gate vs. the Knicks on 10/22. Really absolutely no excuse for losing this game given its after-game, Banner 18 raising implications. That would REALLY be embarrassing. Besides, they're the hapless Knicks, by God!! Almost my entire life they have sucked. I see nothing changing here. A rout by us would be nice!! Again, I really don't ask for much!!
db
P.S. willjr, you and I are about the same age. You going to be pulling SS out when you turn 62 or hoping to stick to Uncle Sam and hold out to 67 or 70? I turn 61 in November. I've been weight the pros and cons ever since I turned 59 1/2! Currently in very good health but family history of heart attacks, diabetes, and dementia ghosts are chasing me.
The Core 4 of DW, JB, JT and JH are about as solid as you can ask for. I have nothing to add to these guys for the upcoming season except carry on!!
We'll see these things right out of the gate vs. the Knicks on 10/22. Really absolutely no excuse for losing this game given its after-game, Banner 18 raising implications. That would REALLY be embarrassing. Besides, they're the hapless Knicks, by God!! Almost my entire life they have sucked. I see nothing changing here. A rout by us would be nice!! Again, I really don't ask for much!!
db
P.S. willjr, you and I are about the same age. You going to be pulling SS out when you turn 62 or hoping to stick to Uncle Sam and hold out to 67 or 70? I turn 61 in November. I've been weight the pros and cons ever since I turned 59 1/2! Currently in very good health but family history of heart attacks, diabetes, and dementia ghosts are chasing me.
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Re: Lonnie Walker
cowens/oldschool wrote:dboss wrote:6-10, where would you project him on the depth chart?
Need a few games/weeks to see him assimilate, but on a talent level could easily be cutting into minutes of SH and Pritch. In match ups where we can exploit his size, athleticism and running ability, he can be a force no question.
Cow,
I haven't watched much of him, I've seen him do a good job playing against us but otherwise no, but to replace minutes of Sam Hauser (who just signed a big extension) and Pritchard (who just signed a big extension) will take some doing.
First of all, Pritchard is a small, ball-handling guard who is a better (maybe even MUCH better) shooter than Walker. Pritch da god also ended up with the 8th or 9th best assist-to-turnover ratio in the league. That's the type of player you want on the floor when Jrue and/or Derek are sitting because he can score and he can run an offense.
As far as cutting into Sam's minutes goes that makes more sense but only so far. Walker has gorilla arms but he's 6'4", 205# while Sam is 6'8" 215#. As you said, I'd like to see him in a few games but physically he might have trouble matching up with SFs on defense.
If we leave KP out of this for now our lineup looks like this (my opinion):
J1
J2
J3
Derek
Al
PP
Sam
Luke
X
There's 9. It would/will be 10 when KP comes back and, maybe at that time, Luke and X will lose minutes and Joe will be able to go to a more guard-oriented squad because he's not so thin at big anymore. If this happens then this list is, still, effectively 9. KP comes back and Luke/X minutes combined shrink down to a single rotation player's and there's 9 players getting rotation minutes or more. Who are #10 and, maybe, #11?
The choices (in my order):
Q (he'll get development minutes because he's a long-term project for us. Also, Al won't be playing b2bs and we'll be especially thin at big until Z comes back)
JS
LW4 (IF he makes the team)
BS
JW
Springer has more time in Joe's system although, admittedly, he's MUCH younger and less NBA experienced. He's also a defense-oriented player while Walker appears to be more offense-oriented. I admit that my opinion of his defense is based upon his DefRtgs and that might not be fair. He might be a good defender now that he can play on a team focused on defense but, until he shows me something, I'm going to give Jaden Springer the nod for #10 or #11.
Bob
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bobheckler- Posts : 62620
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Re: Lonnie Walker
gyso wrote:Jason
Jaylen
Jrue
Derrick
AL
Payton
Sam
Baylor
Xavier
Kornet
Lonnie Walker doesn't push any of them back, IMO. So, not in the top 10, barely in the edge of the deep rotation (11-13?)
He's not headed to Maine, so he makes it here or elsewhere.
Lonnie, Jaden and Jordan may be playing musical chairs for two seats. With Jaden having the highest salary, he may be the odd man out.
I think that's a good bottom-line summary.
Especially when you figure KP and Queta into the mix along the way.
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Re: Lonnie Walker
gyso wrote:Jason
Jaylen
Jrue
Derrick
AL
Payton
Sam
Baylor
Xavier
Kornet
Lonnie Walker doesn't push any of them back, IMO. So, not in the top 10, barely in the edge of the deep rotation (11-13?)
He's not headed to Maine, so he makes it here or elsewhere.
Lonnie, Jaden and Jordan may be playing musical chairs for two seats. With Jaden having the highest salary, he may be the odd man out.
Gyso,
You really see Scheierman cracking the rotation in the first half of his rookie year, before Z is back?
Bob
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bobheckler- Posts : 62620
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db, I’m just seeing your post.
P.S. willjr, you and I are about the same age. You going to be pulling SS out when you turn 62 or hoping to stick to Uncle Sam and hold out to 67 or 70? I turn 61 in November. I've been weight the pros and cons ever since I turned 59 1/2! Currently in very good health but family history of heart attacks, diabetes, and dementia ghosts are chasing me.
I actually retired back in December 2023 after 37 years of federal service. The first 31 doing data research and analysis the last 31 as a law enforcement official. Since I had reached my retirement age in 2019 and had over 25 years of federal service I was eligible to receive social security supplement. I decided to work until I turned 60 because 1, I was the #2 man in seniority and 2, I wanted to continue contributing to my 401k, which my employer matched dollar for dollar up to 5% and .50 for every dollar up to 10%. By me having so much seniority I was usually able to stay away from “field work” and traveling so much, which I did throughout most of the nineties and the early and mid 2000’s. To answer your question, I am absolutely going to draw my social security at 62! I’m in pretty good health both physically and financially but there are no guarantees so I am going to get what I worked hard for before my government figures out a way to deny us all from receiving it. Also there is this to consider, the average life span for a black man in Georgia is 69 years and 9 months. Of course I can go at any time but why should I put it off trying to reach 67 or 70 when the odds are that I won’t reach 70 and 67 would only give me less than 3 years to collect MY money.
P.S. willjr, you and I are about the same age. You going to be pulling SS out when you turn 62 or hoping to stick to Uncle Sam and hold out to 67 or 70? I turn 61 in November. I've been weight the pros and cons ever since I turned 59 1/2! Currently in very good health but family history of heart attacks, diabetes, and dementia ghosts are chasing me.
I actually retired back in December 2023 after 37 years of federal service. The first 31 doing data research and analysis the last 31 as a law enforcement official. Since I had reached my retirement age in 2019 and had over 25 years of federal service I was eligible to receive social security supplement. I decided to work until I turned 60 because 1, I was the #2 man in seniority and 2, I wanted to continue contributing to my 401k, which my employer matched dollar for dollar up to 5% and .50 for every dollar up to 10%. By me having so much seniority I was usually able to stay away from “field work” and traveling so much, which I did throughout most of the nineties and the early and mid 2000’s. To answer your question, I am absolutely going to draw my social security at 62! I’m in pretty good health both physically and financially but there are no guarantees so I am going to get what I worked hard for before my government figures out a way to deny us all from receiving it. Also there is this to consider, the average life span for a black man in Georgia is 69 years and 9 months. Of course I can go at any time but why should I put it off trying to reach 67 or 70 when the odds are that I won’t reach 70 and 67 would only give me less than 3 years to collect MY money.
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Re: Lonnie Walker
bobheckler wrote:gyso wrote:Jason
Jaylen
Jrue
Derrick
AL
Payton
Sam
Baylor
Xavier
Kornet
Lonnie Walker doesn't push any of them back, IMO. So, not in the top 10, barely in the edge of the deep rotation (11-13?)
He's not headed to Maine, so he makes it here or elsewhere.
Lonnie, Jaden and Jordan may be playing musical chairs for two seats. With Jaden having the highest salary, he may be the odd man out.
Gyso,
You really see Scheierman cracking the rotation in the first half of his rookie year, before Z is back?
Bob
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Bob,
My second group of five was in order of size, small to big. Baylor is behind X & K and not in the top eight. So, he's tenth, with Zinger out.
About Baylor. He is a 5 year guy, first round pick, so they may want to see what they have.
I've already seen enough of Walsh. When will he ever be ready?
Springer or Walker? It seems that each is missing what the other has got. Who else is there?
For him to "Crack the rotation" on a championship team seems like an impossible task. On the other hand, being the 11th guy with a top guy out doesn't seem so impossible.
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bobheckler wrote:cowens/oldschool wrote:dboss wrote:6-10, where would you project him on the depth chart?
Need a few games/weeks to see him assimilate, but on a talent level could easily be cutting into minutes of SH and Pritch. In match ups where we can exploit his size, athleticism and running ability, he can be a force no question.
Cow,
I haven't watched much of him, I've seen him do a good job playing against us but otherwise no, but to replace minutes of Sam Hauser (who just signed a big extension) and Pritchard (who just signed a big extension) will take some doing.
First of all, Pritchard is a small, ball-handling guard who is a better (maybe even MUCH better) shooter than Walker. Pritch da god also ended up with the 8th or 9th best assist-to-turnover ratio in the league. That's the type of player you want on the floor when Jrue and/or Derek are sitting because he can score and he can run an offense.
As far as cutting into Sam's minutes goes that makes more sense but only so far. Walker has gorilla arms but he's 6'4", 205# while Sam is 6'8" 215#. As you said, I'd like to see him in a few games but physically he might have trouble matching up with SFs on defense.
If we leave KP out of this for now our lineup looks like this (my opinion):
J1
J2
J3
Derek
Al
PP
Sam
Luke
X
There's 9. It would/will be 10 when KP comes back and, maybe at that time, Luke and X will lose minutes and Joe will be able to go to a more guard-oriented squad because he's not so thin at big anymore. If this happens then this list is, still, effectively 9. KP comes back and Luke/X minutes combined shrink down to a single rotation player's and there's 9 players getting rotation minutes or more. Who are #10 and, maybe, #11?
The choices (in my order):
Q (he'll get development minutes because he's a long-term project for us. Also, Al won't be playing b2bs and we'll be especially thin at big until Z comes back)
JS
LW4 (IF he makes the team)
BS
JW
Springer has more time in Joe's system although, admittedly, he's MUCH younger and less NBA experienced. He's also a defense-oriented player while Walker appears to be more offense-oriented. I admit that my opinion of his defense is based upon his DefRtgs and that might not be fair. He might be a good defender now that he can play on a team focused on defense but, until he shows me something, I'm going to give Jaden Springer the nod for #10 or #11.
Bob
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Bob you seem to always have issues with height. I don’t know where you’re getting your information, but a simple eye test tells me there is no way Hauser is 6’8”. Jaylen always looks taller than him and he’s 6’7”, I’d say SH is a legit 6’5”. I have seen Walker play and there’s a reason he was a first round pick and SH wasn’t drafted. A few have noted that when SH’s shot is off, he doesn’t give us much, I would agree and I root for Sam as he has also helped us, no question and his defense has improved significantly. I just think Walker has a lot of attributes that PP and SH don’t have. He is a better version of Bruce Brown and he is a legit impact player off the bench. Walker was in contention for 6th MoY award early last season before he tailed off. He has more flat out scoring ability than SH or PP and playing with our talent will only make him more effective.
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My unsolicited 2 pennies worth on the above bench player guesses….
Baylor will probably get one of the last chairs going into the season. He looks like he has just enough offense to merit a look.
Walsh is not an NBA level talent, at least not yet. He doesn’t appear to have significant enough skills to contribute on this roster. Maine, then gone by next year.
One of Springer or Walker have a chance to stick around for half a season, not play, and depart in a trade to fill whatever holes emerge.
Baylor will probably get one of the last chairs going into the season. He looks like he has just enough offense to merit a look.
Walsh is not an NBA level talent, at least not yet. He doesn’t appear to have significant enough skills to contribute on this roster. Maine, then gone by next year.
One of Springer or Walker have a chance to stick around for half a season, not play, and depart in a trade to fill whatever holes emerge.
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I think the term, "Rotation" needs to be better defined for this discussion.
"Playoff Rotation" is typically 7-8 players. Baylor ain't cracking that.
The Playoff Rotation currently includes Sam and Payton. They barely fit in, because Coach Joe pared it down to just 6.5 players as the playoffs advanced, series by series.
"Regular Season Rotation" is typically stretched out to 9-11 players. Baylor easily slides into that, IMO, at least while Porzingis is out.
Walsh does not. One of Springer or Walker may. Neemias is behind X and Luke, and may continue to develop in Maine.
Who's left?
"Playoff Rotation" is typically 7-8 players. Baylor ain't cracking that.
The Playoff Rotation currently includes Sam and Payton. They barely fit in, because Coach Joe pared it down to just 6.5 players as the playoffs advanced, series by series.
"Regular Season Rotation" is typically stretched out to 9-11 players. Baylor easily slides into that, IMO, at least while Porzingis is out.
Walsh does not. One of Springer or Walker may. Neemias is behind X and Luke, and may continue to develop in Maine.
Who's left?
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cowens/oldschool wrote:bobheckler wrote:cowens/oldschool wrote:dboss wrote:6-10, where would you project him on the depth chart?
Need a few games/weeks to see him assimilate, but on a talent level could easily be cutting into minutes of SH and Pritch. In match ups where we can exploit his size, athleticism and running ability, he can be a force no question.
Cow,
I haven't watched much of him, I've seen him do a good job playing against us but otherwise no, but to replace minutes of Sam Hauser (who just signed a big extension) and Pritchard (who just signed a big extension) will take some doing.
First of all, Pritchard is a small, ball-handling guard who is a better (maybe even MUCH better) shooter than Walker. Pritch da god also ended up with the 8th or 9th best assist-to-turnover ratio in the league. That's the type of player you want on the floor when Jrue and/or Derek are sitting because he can score and he can run an offense.
As far as cutting into Sam's minutes goes that makes more sense but only so far. Walker has gorilla arms but he's 6'4", 205# while Sam is 6'8" 215#. As you said, I'd like to see him in a few games but physically he might have trouble matching up with SFs on defense.
If we leave KP out of this for now our lineup looks like this (my opinion):
J1
J2
J3
Derek
Al
PP
Sam
Luke
X
There's 9. It would/will be 10 when KP comes back and, maybe at that time, Luke and X will lose minutes and Joe will be able to go to a more guard-oriented squad because he's not so thin at big anymore. If this happens then this list is, still, effectively 9. KP comes back and Luke/X minutes combined shrink down to a single rotation player's and there's 9 players getting rotation minutes or more. Who are #10 and, maybe, #11?
The choices (in my order):
Q (he'll get development minutes because he's a long-term project for us. Also, Al won't be playing b2bs and we'll be especially thin at big until Z comes back)
JS
LW4 (IF he makes the team)
BS
JW
Springer has more time in Joe's system although, admittedly, he's MUCH younger and less NBA experienced. He's also a defense-oriented player while Walker appears to be more offense-oriented. I admit that my opinion of his defense is based upon his DefRtgs and that might not be fair. He might be a good defender now that he can play on a team focused on defense but, until he shows me something, I'm going to give Jaden Springer the nod for #10 or #11.
Bob
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Bob you seem to always have issues with height. I don’t know where you’re getting your information, but a simple eye test tells me there is no way Hauser is 6’8”. Jaylen always looks taller than him and he’s 6’7”, I’d say SH is a legit 6’5”. I have seen Walker play and there’s a reason he was a first round pick and SH wasn’t drafted. A few have noted that when SH’s shot is off, he doesn’t give us much, I would agree and I root for Sam as he has also helped us, no question and his defense has improved significantly. I just think Walker has a lot of attributes that PP and SH don’t have. He is a better version of Bruce Brown and he is a legit impact player off the bench. Walker was in contention for 6th MoY award early last season before he tailed off. He has more flat out scoring ability than SH or PP and playing with our talent will only make him more effective.
Cow,
If you're saying I have a Napoleonic Complex it wouldn't be the first time.
I think GYSO did a great job of objectifying my statement. Eyeballs are what you use when you don't have tape measures being handled by people who aren't invested in the results.
Camera angles and distance, Cow, camera angles and distance. If they're not standing right next to each other and you've got a straight frontal view you have to remember camera angles and distances between the lens and the subjects.
Bob
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I'd go with #1:
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parallax
[ par-uh-laks ]
Phonetic (Standard)
noun
1. the apparent displacement of an observed object due to a change in the position of the observer.
2. Astronomy. the apparent angular displacement of a celestial body due to its being observed from the surface instead of from the center of the earth diurnal parallax, or geocentric parallax or due to its being observed from the earth instead of from the sun annual parallax or heliocentric parallax.
3. the difference between the view of an object as seen through the picture-taking lens of a camera and the view as seen through a separate viewfinder.
4. an apparent change in the position of cross hairs as viewed through a telescope, when the focusing is imperfect.
Digital Technology. a 3D effect observed when images and other elements in the foreground of a screen move at a different rate than those in the background
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No Bob I wasn’t saying that, your eyes might be off SH is not 6’8”.
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RosalieTCeltics wrote:So, did Osche hedge his bet here? All I have heard all summer is, "it isn't dead yet" "possibility" and in the mean time Brad has moved on. Maybe he will end up with Philly or another team as the league seems to be scooping up Ex Celtics. He is a good kid, I hope he gets what he is searching for
He should have opted in.
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Rotation projections during the regular season must contemplate the 30 MPG that you will not get from KP.
Both PP and SH are locked into regular rotation minutes during the regular season. During the playoffs their court time was reduced especially for Sam Hauser.
We know that playoff rotations get compressed with the heavy hitters getting extended playing time. What has more significance going into the season is the development of a 9-10 man rotation without KP.
With regards to the Walker addition. Walker is a proven NBA player. You know he averaged double digits in scoring for 3 years in a row and last season he averaged 9.7 ppg even though he saw a 6 MPG reduction in his playing time. It would be unreasonable to put him in the bottom of the roster category.
Walker simply has more skills and athleticism than any of our guard/wing rotation guys.
We have witnessed PP and Sam develop into solid rotation guys. PP is the better of the two because he can run some offense, create for himself and really push the pace. Sam has perfected the art of playing off our stars by spacing the floor and knocking down open looks. We have even seen him take it off the bounce here and there but that is clearly not his strength.
Walker adds a new dimension for our rotation. He has a great handle and can create off the bounce. He plays above the rim and really gets up and down in transition. He will get open looks in our offense and has an added advantage over our other key rotation guys (Sam and PP) because he can get to the rim!
I do not see him taking minutes away from other guys per say. I see him as another weapon for our high powered offense.
KP is probably out to January 2025 and AH will not play in B2B games. Therefore Kornet and Queta will be critical rotation guys along with Tillman. Tillman is not a center. He is a physical PF that can set solid screens on offense and he can bang in the post but he is no shot blocker and he is not an above average rebounder.
I do not see Queta as a 3rd wheel. We have seen countless games where Kornet is a total non-factor. Queta is a better rebounder than Luke. There are going to be a lot of games where the Celtics are going to need Queta.
Let me circle back around to the Walker addition. This the the type of addition that Celtics fans would Lament over because a rival signed him on the cheap and we did not.
We are going to need a guy like him to score the basketball given no KP, NO AH B2B and no stretch guy among Kornet, Queta and Tillman.
Walker, based on his NBA experience and productivity, is a top 8-9 rotation guy on any team in the NBA.
Both PP and SH are locked into regular rotation minutes during the regular season. During the playoffs their court time was reduced especially for Sam Hauser.
We know that playoff rotations get compressed with the heavy hitters getting extended playing time. What has more significance going into the season is the development of a 9-10 man rotation without KP.
With regards to the Walker addition. Walker is a proven NBA player. You know he averaged double digits in scoring for 3 years in a row and last season he averaged 9.7 ppg even though he saw a 6 MPG reduction in his playing time. It would be unreasonable to put him in the bottom of the roster category.
Walker simply has more skills and athleticism than any of our guard/wing rotation guys.
We have witnessed PP and Sam develop into solid rotation guys. PP is the better of the two because he can run some offense, create for himself and really push the pace. Sam has perfected the art of playing off our stars by spacing the floor and knocking down open looks. We have even seen him take it off the bounce here and there but that is clearly not his strength.
Walker adds a new dimension for our rotation. He has a great handle and can create off the bounce. He plays above the rim and really gets up and down in transition. He will get open looks in our offense and has an added advantage over our other key rotation guys (Sam and PP) because he can get to the rim!
I do not see him taking minutes away from other guys per say. I see him as another weapon for our high powered offense.
KP is probably out to January 2025 and AH will not play in B2B games. Therefore Kornet and Queta will be critical rotation guys along with Tillman. Tillman is not a center. He is a physical PF that can set solid screens on offense and he can bang in the post but he is no shot blocker and he is not an above average rebounder.
I do not see Queta as a 3rd wheel. We have seen countless games where Kornet is a total non-factor. Queta is a better rebounder than Luke. There are going to be a lot of games where the Celtics are going to need Queta.
Let me circle back around to the Walker addition. This the the type of addition that Celtics fans would Lament over because a rival signed him on the cheap and we did not.
We are going to need a guy like him to score the basketball given no KP, NO AH B2B and no stretch guy among Kornet, Queta and Tillman.
Walker, based on his NBA experience and productivity, is a top 8-9 rotation guy on any team in the NBA.
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Five things to know about new Celtics guard Lonnie Walker
By Emma Healy Globe Staff,Updated August 30, 2024, 10:21 a.m.
The Celtics on Wednesday signed veteran guard Lonnie Walker IV to a one-year contract.
Walker spent the first four seasons of his career with the Spurs before joining the Lakers in 2022-23 and the Nets in 2023-24.
Here are five things to know about him.
He’s a former first-round pick
Walker spent just one season at the University of Miami before declaring for the 2018 NBA Draft, where the Spurs took him with the 18th pick.
He spent four seasons in San Antonio, appearing in 208 games (56 starts). By his final Spurs season he had carved out a regular role, averaging a career-high 12.1 points per game in 2021-22.
He’ll have to compete for a spot on the roster
Walker’s roster spot is far from guaranteed. In an interview with the Globe earlier this month, Celtics president of basketball operation Brad Stevens suggested he would likely sign a few players to Exhibit 10 deals to determine how to use the final roster spot.
“We’re just going to monitor the health of our team and see how everybody’s doing, and if there’s any issues that arise between now and September that we need to really address, then we might use it,” Stevens said. “But right now I’d say it’s unlikely. We’re still looking to sign a couple of Exhibit-10s that their most likely path will be to play in Maine. But we’ll see.”
As part of the non-guaranteed Exhibit 10 deal, if Walker is waived he would receive a $77,500 bonus if he agrees to join the Celtics’ G League affiliate in Maine.
His first collegiate start was against Boston University
In his senior year at Reading High School in Pennsylvania, Walker was a McDonald’s All-American and was named Mr. Pennsylvania Basketball. He averaged 18.4 points per game and helped Reading win a state championship.
After coming off the bench in his first few games at Miami, Walker made his first start against BU on Dec. 5, 2017, scoring a team-high 26 points on 9-of-15 shooting. The Hurricanes won, 69-54. Walker finished the season averaging 11.5 points per game and was named to the ACC all-freshman team.
He enjoys reading
Find Walker in the locker room before a game and you’ll likely see his nose buried in a book. Reading began as something his father required him to do for at least an hour every day after school, but it has now become part of his routine, according to the San Antonio Express-News. As a kid, he wasn’t a fan. But these days, it’s a different story.
“It’s relaxing and dials me in for the game, helps me get focused, get to my zone,” he told the Express-News in 2020.
As of 2021, he was looking to read books similar to Paulo Coelho’s “The Alchemist” or Sun Tzu’s “The Art of War.”
He’s still heavily involved in the community where he grew up
Since beginning his NBA career in 2018, Walker has spent time in his hometown of Reading, Pa., hosting basketball camps through The Lonnie Walker IV Foundation. His foundation has also hosted Thanksgiving turkey drives, a community gala, winter coat drives, and other philanthropic endeavors in his hometown, as well as in San Antonio and Los Angeles.
In 2019, Reading mayor Eddie Moran presented Walker with the key to the city after Walker hosted a basketball camp at his former high school. According to his bio on Engage, a talent-booking platform, Walker hopes to one day be elected Reading’s mayor.
Bob
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By Emma Healy Globe Staff,Updated August 30, 2024, 10:21 a.m.
The Celtics on Wednesday signed veteran guard Lonnie Walker IV to a one-year contract.
Walker spent the first four seasons of his career with the Spurs before joining the Lakers in 2022-23 and the Nets in 2023-24.
Here are five things to know about him.
He’s a former first-round pick
Walker spent just one season at the University of Miami before declaring for the 2018 NBA Draft, where the Spurs took him with the 18th pick.
He spent four seasons in San Antonio, appearing in 208 games (56 starts). By his final Spurs season he had carved out a regular role, averaging a career-high 12.1 points per game in 2021-22.
He’ll have to compete for a spot on the roster
Walker’s roster spot is far from guaranteed. In an interview with the Globe earlier this month, Celtics president of basketball operation Brad Stevens suggested he would likely sign a few players to Exhibit 10 deals to determine how to use the final roster spot.
“We’re just going to monitor the health of our team and see how everybody’s doing, and if there’s any issues that arise between now and September that we need to really address, then we might use it,” Stevens said. “But right now I’d say it’s unlikely. We’re still looking to sign a couple of Exhibit-10s that their most likely path will be to play in Maine. But we’ll see.”
As part of the non-guaranteed Exhibit 10 deal, if Walker is waived he would receive a $77,500 bonus if he agrees to join the Celtics’ G League affiliate in Maine.
His first collegiate start was against Boston University
In his senior year at Reading High School in Pennsylvania, Walker was a McDonald’s All-American and was named Mr. Pennsylvania Basketball. He averaged 18.4 points per game and helped Reading win a state championship.
After coming off the bench in his first few games at Miami, Walker made his first start against BU on Dec. 5, 2017, scoring a team-high 26 points on 9-of-15 shooting. The Hurricanes won, 69-54. Walker finished the season averaging 11.5 points per game and was named to the ACC all-freshman team.
He enjoys reading
Find Walker in the locker room before a game and you’ll likely see his nose buried in a book. Reading began as something his father required him to do for at least an hour every day after school, but it has now become part of his routine, according to the San Antonio Express-News. As a kid, he wasn’t a fan. But these days, it’s a different story.
“It’s relaxing and dials me in for the game, helps me get focused, get to my zone,” he told the Express-News in 2020.
As of 2021, he was looking to read books similar to Paulo Coelho’s “The Alchemist” or Sun Tzu’s “The Art of War.”
He’s still heavily involved in the community where he grew up
Since beginning his NBA career in 2018, Walker has spent time in his hometown of Reading, Pa., hosting basketball camps through The Lonnie Walker IV Foundation. His foundation has also hosted Thanksgiving turkey drives, a community gala, winter coat drives, and other philanthropic endeavors in his hometown, as well as in San Antonio and Los Angeles.
In 2019, Reading mayor Eddie Moran presented Walker with the key to the city after Walker hosted a basketball camp at his former high school. According to his bio on Engage, a talent-booking platform, Walker hopes to one day be elected Reading’s mayor.
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bobheckler- Posts : 62620
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Re: Lonnie Walker
I'm beginning to warm up to Walker. Sure, he's a scorer, but can he play defense? That's his biggest weak point. He will have to if he expects to get any meaningful playing time. Maybe it will be like NYCelt says, here for now, not for long.
I think X and Luke will get the bulk of the time at big because the coach trusts them more. Luke is coming off a surprisingly strong regular season and Tillman, while not a leaper, has proven to be able to defend against the true bigs in the league, both before he arrived, and after. They just need to shoot, and hit, more threes to better fit in and make the other team's defense defend all five guys on the floor.
Neemias is a great rebounder because he has no hands. Collecting multiple rebounds while playing volleyball off the backboard, and then losing the ball and getting nothing out of the possession, to me is meaningless. He is relatively new to the game, and I hope he does develop into a serviceable NBA big, but he gets lost on defense sometimes and when it counts, the coaches don't trust him with regular minutes. I still think he is a work in progress and may spend time in Maine.
I think X and Luke will get the bulk of the time at big because the coach trusts them more. Luke is coming off a surprisingly strong regular season and Tillman, while not a leaper, has proven to be able to defend against the true bigs in the league, both before he arrived, and after. They just need to shoot, and hit, more threes to better fit in and make the other team's defense defend all five guys on the floor.
Neemias is a great rebounder because he has no hands. Collecting multiple rebounds while playing volleyball off the backboard, and then losing the ball and getting nothing out of the possession, to me is meaningless. He is relatively new to the game, and I hope he does develop into a serviceable NBA big, but he gets lost on defense sometimes and when it counts, the coaches don't trust him with regular minutes. I still think he is a work in progress and may spend time in Maine.
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gyso- Posts : 23027
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Re: Lonnie Walker
Has anybody seen Kornet lose the ball out of bounds, muff a rebound or 2?
Queta is clearly a better rebounder than Kornet because he can rebound in traffic. If Kornet is trying to secure a contested rebound he probably will lose those battles more times than not. We saw that all season long and if you did not see that maybe it is time to get an eye examination, lol.
During the regular season Queta averaged more points and more rebounds than either Kornet or Tillman.
Brad and CJ are big analytics guys so maybe the net ratings of these centers may factor into minutes distribution.
Once again, there will be no KP for probably our first 30 games if we are lucky. I think it will be an everybody on deck, center by committee. AH
Brad resigned all 3 of our rotation centers for a reason. How they will be used is still a matter of conjecture. AH will likely be a DNP in 4 B2B games through the end of December. And there will be times when AH will struggle on the glass. The Celtics have to defend the paint and control the defensive glass.
Queta is clearly a better rebounder than Kornet because he can rebound in traffic. If Kornet is trying to secure a contested rebound he probably will lose those battles more times than not. We saw that all season long and if you did not see that maybe it is time to get an eye examination, lol.
During the regular season Queta averaged more points and more rebounds than either Kornet or Tillman.
Brad and CJ are big analytics guys so maybe the net ratings of these centers may factor into minutes distribution.
Once again, there will be no KP for probably our first 30 games if we are lucky. I think it will be an everybody on deck, center by committee. AH
Brad resigned all 3 of our rotation centers for a reason. How they will be used is still a matter of conjecture. AH will likely be a DNP in 4 B2B games through the end of December. And there will be times when AH will struggle on the glass. The Celtics have to defend the paint and control the defensive glass.
dboss- Posts : 19220
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Re: Lonnie Walker
dboss wrote:Has anybody seen Kornet lose the ball out of bounds, muff a rebound or 2?
Queta is clearly a better rebounder than Kornet because he can rebound in traffic. If Kornet is trying to secure a contested rebound he probably will lose those battles more times than not. We saw that all season long and if you did not see that maybe it is time to get an eye examination, lol.
During the regular season Queta averaged more points and more rebounds than either Kornet or Tillman.
Brad and CJ are big analytics guys so maybe the net ratings of these centers may factor into minutes distribution.
Once again, there will be no KP for probably our first 30 games if we are lucky. I think it will be an everybody on deck, center by committee. AH
Brad resigned all 3 of our rotation centers for a reason. How they will be used is still a matter of conjecture. AH will likely be a DNP in 4 B2B games through the end of December. And there will be times when AH will struggle on the glass. The Celtics have to defend the paint and control the defensive glass.
Actually it’s shocking how good our record is with KP out and we were even above that level during the playoffs. It obvious we are so much better with Zinger and all he provides both ends, it’s a credit to Joe, doing a great coaching job making winning adjustments without Zinger. This could be a blessing as it will force us to develop Queta and I’m looking forward to seeing that. Tillman is more of a PF that can buy a few minutes at 5, he adds a physical element/toughness that I like and teams need.
On your other post you talked about LW, agree with everything, he’s a proven commodity and can find a place in any 8-9 man rotation. Can’t believe Nuggets didn’t go after him as he could have been a perfect replacement for Caldwell-Pope. I can’t believe the posters on this board that are questioning if LW can even make the team? Maybe they haven’t seen him play, wherever he has been, when he gets minutes he produces. He will add to our running game, he and Pritch can be a great push the pace combination and I see his game fitting in well next to D White or Holiday. As you said, he will get so many open driving lanes playing off the J’s and all our passers and he’s such a strong finisher/creator already. This will be a new dimension coming off our bench. Perfect piece to add, Brad did it again!!
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Re: Lonnie Walker
cowens/oldschool wrote:dboss wrote:Has anybody seen Kornet lose the ball out of bounds, muff a rebound or 2?
Queta is clearly a better rebounder than Kornet because he can rebound in traffic. If Kornet is trying to secure a contested rebound he probably will lose those battles more times than not. We saw that all season long and if you did not see that maybe it is time to get an eye examination, lol.
During the regular season Queta averaged more points and more rebounds than either Kornet or Tillman.
Brad and CJ are big analytics guys so maybe the net ratings of these centers may factor into minutes distribution.
Once again, there will be no KP for probably our first 30 games if we are lucky. I think it will be an everybody on deck, center by committee. AH
Brad resigned all 3 of our rotation centers for a reason. How they will be used is still a matter of conjecture. AH will likely be a DNP in 4 B2B games through the end of December. And there will be times when AH will struggle on the glass. The Celtics have to defend the paint and control the defensive glass.
Actually it’s shocking how good our record is with KP out and we were even above that level during the playoffs. It obvious we are so much better with Zinger and all he provides both ends, it’s a credit to Joe, doing a great coaching job making winning adjustments without Zinger. This could be a blessing as it will force us to develop Queta and I’m looking forward to seeing that. Tillman is more of a PF that can buy a few minutes at 5, he adds a physical element/toughness that I like and teams need.
On your other post you talked about LW, agree with everything, he’s a proven commodity and can find a place in any 8-9 man rotation. Can’t believe Nuggets didn’t go after him as he could have been a perfect replacement for Caldwell-Pope. I can’t believe the posters on this board that are questioning if LW can even make the team? Maybe they haven’t seen him play, wherever he has been, when he gets minutes he produces. He will add to our running game, he and Pritch can be a great push the pace combination and I see his game fitting in well next to D White or Holiday. As you said, he will get so many open driving lanes playing off the J’s and all our passers and he’s such a strong finisher/creator already. This will be a new dimension coming off our bench. Perfect piece to add, Brad did it again!!
Cowens
I agree I think Lonnie Walker could be a factor. He has a proven NBA skill. He can score the ball. That is a valuable asset. I have to admit I don't know much about his defense. As you guys stated he has long arms, and he's a good athlete. If he proves to CJ he can play D, he will make the team and possibly even the rotation. As I said previously, this is a low risk, high reward signing. Another brilliant move by Brad.
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Re: Lonnie Walker
Celtics17
He sure is. Danny did a lot of great signings, unfortunately a lot of the great pieces were always over 30. Brad has done an amazing job constantly getting young guys still with room to grow. Can’t wait to see how we look on the floor next year!! Our bench is gonna be so deep
He sure is. Danny did a lot of great signings, unfortunately a lot of the great pieces were always over 30. Brad has done an amazing job constantly getting young guys still with room to grow. Can’t wait to see how we look on the floor next year!! Our bench is gonna be so deep
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Re: Lonnie Walker
Cow
The Celtics played well during the regular season and during the playoffs without Kristaps. It is a testament to how loaded this team is with 2 all defensive guards who can also score and 2 top of the line wings who are both 3 level scorers and they defend at a high level. Add in the rest of the band and it is music to the ears.
This time around feels a bit different. While KP missed 25 games last regular season they were spread out.
He is very likely to miss our first 30 games.
LK is going to get more starts this year. I do believe that all of our bigs will play a vital role in helping this team win. I would like to see Luke take a 3 pointer now and then.
Last season Luke started in 7 games. His all games played MPG average was 15.6 and he scored 5.3 PPG along with 4.1 rebounds. However, as a starter he logged 28.9 MPG and scored 11 points with 9.6 rebounds, 3.6 assists and 2.1 blokes. 7 games represents a relatively small sample size but it does provide some optimism for playing without KP and/or AH and putting Luke in the starting lineup.
Celtics17
LW had a defensive rating of 111 with the Nets last season. The Nets defensive rating was 115.4
The Celtics are a team that emphasizes fundamentals. The Celtics defensive rating last season was 110.6 so he is in line with that number.
Some uninformed fans have suggested that he could go to the G-league. He is no developmental player having completed 6 years of service in the NBA including 88 games as a starter. Besides you cannot play in the NBA unless you are on a 2-way deal, a 10 day contract or a regular contract.
Brad signed him because Brissett and Svi are gone from the team and the Celtics need an experienced guard/wing that is NOT in the developmental stage of his career (Jordan Walsh and rookie Baylor Scheierman) Walsh, Scheierman and Springer are on the 15 man roster. They are not going anywhere but I do not see any of them getting playing time this season.
I do not see any of the camp invitees beating Walker out for the final roster spot. (Jay Scrubb, Ron Harper Jr. and Tristan Enaruna) Jay Scrubb probably brings the most competition but he has very, very little NBA experience and is coming off of ACL surgery.
yes, Brad is a savvy opportunist.
The Celtics played well during the regular season and during the playoffs without Kristaps. It is a testament to how loaded this team is with 2 all defensive guards who can also score and 2 top of the line wings who are both 3 level scorers and they defend at a high level. Add in the rest of the band and it is music to the ears.
This time around feels a bit different. While KP missed 25 games last regular season they were spread out.
He is very likely to miss our first 30 games.
LK is going to get more starts this year. I do believe that all of our bigs will play a vital role in helping this team win. I would like to see Luke take a 3 pointer now and then.
Last season Luke started in 7 games. His all games played MPG average was 15.6 and he scored 5.3 PPG along with 4.1 rebounds. However, as a starter he logged 28.9 MPG and scored 11 points with 9.6 rebounds, 3.6 assists and 2.1 blokes. 7 games represents a relatively small sample size but it does provide some optimism for playing without KP and/or AH and putting Luke in the starting lineup.
Celtics17
LW had a defensive rating of 111 with the Nets last season. The Nets defensive rating was 115.4
The Celtics are a team that emphasizes fundamentals. The Celtics defensive rating last season was 110.6 so he is in line with that number.
Some uninformed fans have suggested that he could go to the G-league. He is no developmental player having completed 6 years of service in the NBA including 88 games as a starter. Besides you cannot play in the NBA unless you are on a 2-way deal, a 10 day contract or a regular contract.
Brad signed him because Brissett and Svi are gone from the team and the Celtics need an experienced guard/wing that is NOT in the developmental stage of his career (Jordan Walsh and rookie Baylor Scheierman) Walsh, Scheierman and Springer are on the 15 man roster. They are not going anywhere but I do not see any of them getting playing time this season.
I do not see any of the camp invitees beating Walker out for the final roster spot. (Jay Scrubb, Ron Harper Jr. and Tristan Enaruna) Jay Scrubb probably brings the most competition but he has very, very little NBA experience and is coming off of ACL surgery.
yes, Brad is a savvy opportunist.
dboss- Posts : 19220
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Re: Lonnie Walker
FYI
I do not see Jay Scrubb listed on the Celtics Spotrac site with a E10 contract.
I do not see Jay Scrubb listed on the Celtics Spotrac site with a E10 contract.
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