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Post by Sam Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:33 pm

Cow, your comment that follows is interesting:

"I thought the year before we acquired KG, management decided to have the best shot in the draft as possible, something they should have done this year. They never played Perk with Big Al together with Pierce...."


Actually, according to the 82 Games archives, in the 2006-07 season (the season immediately preceding KG's Boston arrival), the second most often-used five-man combination on the Celtics (in terms of minutes played together) consisted of Rondo, West, Pierce, Jefferson, Perkins.


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Post by cowens/oldschool Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:04 pm

sam wrote:Cow, your comment that follows is interesting:

"I thought the year before we acquired KG, management decided to have the best shot in the draft as possible, something they should have done this year. They never played Perk with Big Al together with Pierce...."


Actually, according to the 82 Games archives, in the 2006-07 season (the season immediately preceding KG's Boston arrival), the second most often-used five-man combination on the Celtics (in terms of minutes played together) consisted of Rondo, West, Pierce, Jefferson, Perkins.


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interesting, I didn't see enough of the young Perk and young Big Al playing together, loved their contrasting styles, Perk with his enforcer bully ball and Big Al with the assortment of post ups....I also remember seeing too much of Sebastian Telfair and not enough of Rondo....too bad how things have turned for Rondo. My youngest, Johnny and I were discussing how he never fully recovered from the patella injury 2 years ago as without his uber speed, hes not the same.

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Post by cowens/oldschool Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:09 pm

sam wrote:Cow,

I think the Beatles were great from two perspectives: their writing and their performances.  Virtually every format in popular music is derivative.  Being among the first to introduce a new form is a biggie.  The Beatles' style was derived from John Lennon's skiffle group, The Journeymen. Skiffle was a combination of several musical forms, including folk, jazz and blues.  So the Beatles fit neatly into the evolution of popular music, although their ability to communicate their special form is much of what set them apart.  As for being "overrated," I can't possibly imagine on what basis that could be true.

As for my music tastes, they cut across most types, from classical to swing (I had my own swing band at age 14), to band, pop, folk, jazz, hard rock, alternative, operatic, etc.  But the performance genre I like best is unquestionably orchestral which I link closely with sports like basketball because, in both activities, there are no second chances allowed.  If you fail in your responsibility, you risk screwing it up for the others, so absolute dependability is a must.  A line from my funeral reads, "One of the few experiences that can rival making a game-saving catch is the absolute thrill of being depended upon—with no second chances allowed—in a live orchestral performance."


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you really know music, too bad you weren't in city, you could go to shows with Steve....

whats your top 2 or 3 favorite songs, that really meant something to you?

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Post by cowens/oldschool Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:21 pm

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cowens/oldschool wrote:bob

Your missing the point, I'm trying to show that the year we passed on Jordan, there actually was a need for length, as our 2 bigs behind the starters were Leon and Davis, two 6'7"-6"8" PF's. I actually enjoyed watching them play and used to refer to them as Silas and Unseld.

Also just cause I didn't mention KG doesn't mean I forgot his HoF abilities and contributions, he was like another coach on the floor and I said many times those years we have the best defensive 4-5 combo in basketball and with a young Rondo shutting down opposing PG's. I used to call that defense the Bermuda Triangle, and as great as KG was Perk made his defense even better and obviously KG made that defense and team. Take away Paul Silas, how much harder would Dave Cowens have to work and would he be effective enough to carry that team by himself?

I thought the year before we acquired KG, management decided to have the best shot in the draft as possible, something they should have done this year. They never played Perk with Big Al together with Pierce, it was always Gomes and Big Al, undersized at the 4 and 5. The few instances they played Big Al and Perk together, they looked great in that paint. Perk in fact anchored the Thunder all the way to the Finals that year of the trade. Dwight Howard used to call Perk his toughest match up, but we don't need to rehash the past, lets stop talking about Perk....one thing he can do is anchor a defense.

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cow,

Jordan was drafted #35 in the 2008 draft.  I think we did pretty well in 2008 without the size you are citing.  

If you watched the Houston/Clippers series, and I'm sure you did, you saw Kevin and Doc using Hack-a-Shaq strategies against the other team's center.  The series boiled down to which center could make a free throw.  I lost count of all the empty possessions BOTH teams had because neither center could put the ball in the hole from the line.  It was disgraceful.  


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well I'm not the smartest or brightest

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Post by Sam Fri Jun 05, 2015 5:21 pm

Cow: Too tough to pick two or three.  Where the Streets Have No Name.  Beethoven's Sixth Symphony.  Twenty or thirty Sinatra songs.  Born to Run.  The Marseillaise.  Da Doo Ron Ron.  Down at the Twist and Shout.  Empty Garden (Hey Hey Johnny).  The Greatest Discovery.  Holly Ann.  Me and Bobby McGee.  City of New Orleans.  Vagner's Overture to Tannhaüser.  Mr. Businessman.  I'll Be Seeing You.  Non, Je Ne Regrette Rien.  The Last Resort.  The Bridge.  White Bird.  Layla.  Comfortably Numb.  Marieke.  The House I Live In.  White Rabbit.  Keith Jarrett's Bremen and Lausanne Concerts.  I Dreamed a Dream.  Estudio Brilliante.  I Know You're out there Somewhere.  The Irish Have a Great Day Tonight (Celtics Theme Song from the 50s and 60s).  Twelve Thirty.  The Winner Takes it All.  Human.  Nocturne.  A Salty Dog.  Tessie.  Going to California.  Summer of '69.  Con Te Partiro.  Sloop John B.  L.A. Woman.  You Won't See Me.  Sympathy for the Devil.  Mr. Tambourine Man (by Bob Dylan, not the Byrds).  Squeeze Box.

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Post by rambone Wed Oct 28, 2015 4:25 pm

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Post by gyso Thu Oct 29, 2015 8:52 am

rambone,

Nice find.

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Post by rambone Thu Oct 29, 2015 10:08 am

I'm glad Sam listed this song. I always think of Sam when I hear it



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