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Post by NYCelt Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:36 pm

bobheckler wrote:Here's Kevin O'Connor's scouting report on James Young.


JAMES YOUNG

Position: Wing
School: Kentucky
Age: 18
Height: 6-foot-7
Weight: 215 pounds
Wingspan: 6-foot-11

Key 2013-14 stats: 14.3 points, 34.9 3PT%, 46.9 2PT%

Scouting report: Highly recruited out of high school, Young failed to meet the expectations set for him at Kentucky. However, he still managed to prove his potential as a go-to scorer with some terrific performances, including his 20 points game in the national title game.

The 18-year-old’€™s greatest potential comes as a spot-up shooter or as a “triple threat.” Young has great perimeter shooting mechanics, with a fast release and a long wingspan, which allows him to get shots off cleanly. Even though Young lacks high-end athleticism and advanced dribbling moves, he has the potential to be a scorer driving to the basket, as he showed in flashes throughout the season.

Young is an extremely poor defender and rarely stayed in his stance, often appearing disinterested about defending. Pre-draft interviews will be important to determine his willingness to play hard on that end of the floor; players with Young’€™s offensive skill-set are a dime a dozen, but the ones that can defend even at an average level manage to stick in the league.

A prospect like Young would benefit greatly from time spent learning the game in the D-League. Considering his raw abilities on both ends of the floor, being thrust into action may only stunt his development. But as the fourth-youngest player in the draft, Young has ample time to progress his skills and take advantage of his ideal body for an NBA wing.

How he fits: Young is so far away from making an impact in the NBA that it’€™s hard to see the Celtics selecting him. Even though the potential is there for him to be a quality scorer, the C’s have said they plan on being competitive next season and Young wouldn’t be able to immediately contribute.



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A D-League start for Young might help. He's young (no pun) and needs time. Good potential. May help us in the relatively short term, say a season or so.
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Post by bobheckler Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:36 pm

Chicago with McDermott, Nurkic and Gary Harris.

Wow. Now that's drafting well.
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Post by NYCelt Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:37 pm

bobheckler wrote:
NYCelt wrote:Rondo, Smart, Young, maybe Bradley.

We may have one of the better backcourts around within a short period of time.


Pressey, Bayless.


Yeah, I know they're unguaranteed but they're going to compete.


I wouldn't be shocked if one of those two come back for a season.
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Post by Sam Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:38 pm

Could Young turn into a good swing man?  For that matter, could Smart turn into a good combo guard?  I'm still searching for positives.

I can only hope this draft is a springboard to rebuilding the Celtics in a very substantial way.  I'm not feeling it, but I suppose it could happen.  I just have the feeling that, with a lottery pick and a #17 pick in a supposedly loaded draft, I should feel more enthusiasm than I do.  So now we're overloaded at two positions but no closer in terms of the team's biggest need.

Okay, Danny, I'm ready for the fireworks to start.  Perhaps by using the trade exception before it expires?

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Post by bobheckler Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:38 pm

NYCelt wrote:
bobheckler wrote:
NYCelt wrote:Rondo, Smart, Young, maybe Bradley.

We may have one of the better backcourts around within a short period of time.


Pressey, Bayless.


Yeah, I know they're unguaranteed but they're going to compete.


I wouldn't be shocked if one of those two come back for a season.


Yep.


There are shoes to drop, for sure.

We still need centers, plural.

We are now overloaded at guards.

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Post by tjmakz Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:38 pm

bobheckler wrote:Chicago with McDermott, Nurkic and Gary Harris.

Wow.  Now that's drafting well.

Nurkik and Harris are going to Denver
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Post by kdp59 Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:40 pm

Bob
I 'm sure I picked him in one of those mocks....LOL.



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Post by bobheckler Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:40 pm

My gut says Bradley is gone. We'll do a sign-and-trade, maybe plus another player and/or draft pick and he'll get his 6-9M and we'll get someone.

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Post by bobheckler Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:43 pm



Jay King @ByJayKing about 5 minutes ago
Pagliuca repeats Red Auerbach's "instigator, not retaliator" about Marcus Smart. Said Cs consider Young a steal.

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Jay King @ByJayKing 4 minutes ago
Pags said there was a big cheer in the war room when group found out Young would be available.

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Post by NYCelt Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:43 pm

bobheckler wrote:Well, it's you and me and the Anchor Steam makes 3.

The Anchor Steam, by the way, is among the evenings better picks.
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Post by kdp59 Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:46 pm

who did the Raptors take?
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Post by bobheckler Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:47 pm

NYCelt wrote:
bobheckler wrote:Well, it's you and me and the Anchor Steam makes 3.

The Anchor Steam, by the way, is among the evenings better picks.


Now THAT is a safe bet.


We said the same thing about Sully in 2012 and Kelly in 2013. I say, let it play out. Let the boys play and then we'll know.
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Post by NYCelt Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:47 pm

I'm part-way to what I've been saying for weeks.

Rondo at point and Smart at 2.

There is a potentially championship quality back-court.

Smart should be a very good NBA 2, and gives us insurance against Rondo departing after next season.

Smart. Very Smart.

Not as sold on Young, but willing to be patient.
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Post by tjmakz Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:48 pm

kdp59 wrote:who did the Raptors take?

He wasn't listed on the nbadraft.net mock.
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Post by bobheckler Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:48 pm

Jared Weiss @CLNS_JaredWeiss now
Stevens: James Young has a stroke that is just going to get better and better. We thought he was a very undervalued scoring wing. #Celtics

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Post by NYCelt Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:48 pm

bobheckler wrote:
NYCelt wrote:
bobheckler wrote:Well, it's you and me and the Anchor Steam makes 3.

The Anchor Steam, by the way, is among the evenings better picks.


Now THAT is a safe bet.


We said the same thing about Sully in 2012 and Kelly in 2013.  I say, let it play out.  Let the boys play and then we'll know.

Well, have another for me then.

By the way, I wasn't disparaging the C's picks, just complimenting your choice of brew.
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Post by bobheckler Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:50 pm

This is about James Young.


Matt Moore CBS ✔ @MattMooreCBS
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Celtics: A-: A real plug-and-play option that allows them to move Green. Nothing complicated and they got two good talents in this draft
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Post by Sam Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:50 pm

Okay, now that Pags said that, I'm all verklempt.  Can't wait for the season to start, and hoping against hope that Danny doesn't mess any more with the ingredients of what could be a monster team.

Goodnight all.  If the Celtics pull off a shocker and purchase three or four more wonderful picks in the second round, I look forward to reading about it tomorrow.

I hope it's obvious that all of this was said with tongue firmly planted in cheek.  Seeing the tribute to Austin really put this whole thing in perspective.

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Post by bobheckler Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:50 pm

NYCelt wrote:
bobheckler wrote:
NYCelt wrote:
bobheckler wrote:Well, it's you and me and the Anchor Steam makes 3.

The Anchor Steam, by the way, is among the evenings better picks.


Now THAT is a safe bet.


We said the same thing about Sully in 2012 and Kelly in 2013.  I say, let it play out.  Let the boys play and then we'll know.

Well, have another for me then.

By the way, I wasn't disparaging the C's picks, just complimenting your choice of brew.



I wouldn't say it was the reason I moved out here, but it did grease the wheels of thought on it.
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Post by tjmakz Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:51 pm

NYCelt wrote:I'm part-way to what I've been saying for weeks.

Rondo at point and Smart at 2.

There is a potentially championship quality back-court.

Smart should be a very good NBA 2, and gives us insurance against Rondo departing after next season.

Smart.  Very Smart.

Not as sold on Young, but willing to be patient.

NYCelt,

Have you seen Smart play?
Shooting is BY FAR his weakness.
He's a point guard.
Smart shot 30% last year from college 3 point range last year.
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Post by steve3344 Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:52 pm

Funny line about Toronto's pick Bruno Caboclo on ESPN radio:

"He's two years away from being two years away."

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Post by 112288 Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:53 pm

I AM LOST..........SO WHAT IS THE DIRECTION OF THE CELTICS?

I GUESS REBUILD REBUILD REBUILD.

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Post by bobheckler Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:54 pm

tjmakz wrote:
NYCelt wrote:I'm part-way to what I've been saying for weeks.

Rondo at point and Smart at 2.

There is a potentially championship quality back-court.

Smart should be a very good NBA 2, and gives us insurance against Rondo departing after next season.

Smart.  Very Smart.

Not as sold on Young, but willing to be patient.

NYCelt,

Have you seen Smart play?
Shooting is BY FAR his weakness.
He's a point guard.
Smart shot 30% last year from college 3 point range last year.



Ben Rohrbach @brohrbach 2 minutes ago
Stevens also thinks the knocks on Smart's shooting is overplayed.

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Post by steve3344 Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:55 pm

112288 wrote:I AM LOST..........SO WHAT IS THE DIRECTION OF THE CELTICS?

I GUESS REBUILD REBUILD REBUILD.

112288

The direction of the Celtics is to hope the NBA eliminates the center position.

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Post by Sam Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:55 pm

Wow, did anyone else see the graphic on which drafted PG would have the best NBA career?  Smart = something like 44%, Exum = 14%.  I assume the poll was conducted among fans, and I assume many more had seen Smart play than Exum.

Boy, Rodney Hood looks really dejected.

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