Re: Lakers looking to trade D'Angelo Russell

by **cowens/oldschool** Sun Jun 19, 2016 9:06 pm

bobheckler wrote:
dboss wrote:There are different styles at work but let's be real. GS could not stop Jabbar and Magic. And they could not match up with the Celtics front line.

Dboss

dboss,

And the slow down style of the Celtics would get run off the court by GSW. And which Celtic would go out to the perimeter to guard all their shooters?

bob

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dude the 86 team could run and run hard off their defense and rebounding, Thunder took them to 7 with Adams and Ibaka dominating inside, can you imagine what our frontline would do to them? DJ and Ainge can cover the perimeter and match up with them on perimeter way better than they could handle our frontline, which they couldn't.

by **dboss** Sun Jun 19, 2016 9:16 pm

Please name one player on GS that could check mchale?

Could Bogus check Robert Parish?. Answer...hell no.

Who is going to check Larry Bird who is arguably the best forward ever.

Here's the thing people may be forgetting. The Celtics had an extraordinary front line. You are not going to run them off the court because you will be taking the ball out of the basket because you would not be able to check them. I will take their size over GS 3 point shooting.

Dboss

by **cowens/oldschool** Sun Jun 19, 2016 9:18 pm

I don't think all those weights are accurate, Moses Malone and Kevin McHale and Bill Walton were not 215 pounds, todays players have better training and weight lifting routines, doesn't mean they are better players or more physical just because of their weight. Its the fight in the dog, not the weight in the dog.

by **cowens/oldschool** Sun Jun 19, 2016 9:21 pm

dboss wrote:Please name one player on GS that could check mchale?

Could Bogus check Robert Parish?. Answer...hell no.

Who is going to check Larry Bird who is arguably the best forward ever.

Here's the thing people may be forgetting. The Celtics had an extraordinary front line. You are not going to run them off the court because you will be taking the ball out of the basket because you would not be able to check them. I will take their size over GS 3 point shooting.

Dboss

just wanted to add its size and skill, something that this GS team has never seen to this extent, Bird would put on a clinic with his midrange game and pass the ball on them to shreds

by **NYCelt** Sun Jun 19, 2016 11:11 pm

worcester wrote:Here's a list of the top 11 rebounders in the NBA in 85-86.
Bill "the Twig" Laimbeer - 7', 240
Charles "Marie Osmond" Barkley - 6'6" , 252
Ralph "Beanpole" Sampson - 7'4", 228
Moses "the Midget" Malone - 6'10", 215
Hakeem "the Anorexic" Olajuwon - 7', 255
Buck "the Obviously Bulemic" Williams - 6'8", 215
Larry "Mr. Mean (actual nickname)" Smith - 6'8", 215
Larry "Eats Like a Bird" Bird - 6'9", 220
James "the Dainty" Donaldson - 7'2", 273
Robert "Puny" Parish - 7', 230

No competition for any modern NBA team.

So the Celts of old never had to contend with any brawny big men. And then there was that 7'2" 215 lb. toothpick pushover they faced, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, who proved once and for all that skinny, scrawny men can't really compete in the NBA.

W -

Good point for the next time someone insists a given player needs to bulk up in order to succeed int he NBA. It doesn't work for everyone, but sometimes skinny and strong means you're only going to be able to be among the greatest ever to play the game.

Regards

by **steve3344** Mon Jun 20, 2016 12:07 am

swish wrote:
dboss wrote:Who is gonna check Bird. Who is gonna check Parish. Who is gonna check McHale. Who is going to match up with Walton?

If gs is being manhandled by the Cavs it would be worse much worse because Boston would pound those punks relentlessly. Playoffs are not the regular season.

Dboss

DBoss

There are 2 huge differences between the 2 generations
* The huge differences in the use of the 3 point shot.
The Warriors 2592 attempts and the Celtics 393 attempts.
* The huge differences in the weight of the front court players.
In 1985-86 the league average for front court players was 223.0 lbs .
In 1985-86 the average weight for the Celtic front court players was 217.0.0 lbs
In 2015-16 the league average for front court players was 246.0 lbs.
In 2015 16 the average weight for the Warriors front court players was 242 lbs.
I'm not convinced that the feather weight front court of the 1986 Celtics would fare as well against the heavy weight front court of the 2016 Warriors, as they did against their feather weight opponents of 1986.

swish

Big guys when they come out of college always gain a bunch of weight as their careers advance. Do you actually think Paul Pierce who was 6'7" and 235 was actually 15-20 pounds HEAVIER than Parish, McHale and Walton were during that '86 season? Get serious. Those guys were all 4"-6" taller than Pierce but their draft day weight had them all in the 210-230 range. Walton was 7'1" but always insisted on being listed as 6'11" because he wanted people to underestimate him. Good luck to any team going against four Hall Of Famers on that front line with their height and smarts. And they were certainly not toothpicks. McHale, the skinniest of all of them, could rebound and bang with the best of them.

by **cowens/oldschool** Mon Jun 20, 2016 1:48 am

Guess Charles Oakley, Buck Williams, Karl Malone, Rick Mahorn, Charles Barkley, Moses Malone, Shawn Kemp all couldn't bang with this era? are you kidding me, and McHale put up his numbers on all those guys. As a matter of fact Barkley has said numerous times the best player he ever faced was McHale. This is the era that uses gimmicks, and pace and space, and abundance of 3's, nobody posts up anymore? the 80's era was the physical hard hats banging and going at it in the paint......Bird was the first stretch 4 and point forward and a banger, he was the most complete forward ever in all phases, until Lebron. Bird and McHale would take turns eating and spiting out Draymond Green, they both faced plenty more better defenders than Draymond Green.

by **steve3344** Mon Jun 20, 2016 2:32 am

It's official: D'Angelo Russell's bonehead decision to tape Nick Young's comments and post them on the internet ended Young's marriage plans with Iggy Azalea.

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/iggy-azalea-nick-young-split-article-1.2679937

Wonder how that's going to play out in the locker room since Young is signed through 2018. Maybe that's why the Lakers are trying to trade him now.

by **tjmakz** Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:09 am

steve3344 wrote:It's official: D'Angelo Russell's bonehead decision to tape Nick Young's comments and post them on the internet ended Young's marriage plans with Iggy Azalea.

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/iggy-azalea-nick-young-split-article-1.2679937

Wonder how that's going to play out in the locker room since Young is signed through 2018. Maybe that's why the Lakers are trying to trade him now.

Nick will be traded or waived before the season starts.
LA is not going to waste a roster spot any longer with Nick Young.

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