Daniel Theis has left the building

Are you joking about Kelly Olynk?

RosalieTCeltics wrote:Are you joking about Kelly Olynk?

I did read it, on that other place you sometimes go.

I don't know how much truth there is to it, we will have to wait and see.

I'd replace Kornet or Edwards with Kelly O.

Fixes the PF slot at least some for us.

I personally have seen nothing about Houston releasing Kelly O . though.

Cowens would likely be pissed if that would happen I think.

kdp59 wrote:I'd replace Kornet  or Edwards with Kelly O.

Fixes the PF slot at least some for us.

I personally have seen nothing about Houston releasing Kelly O . though.

Cowens would likely be pissed if that would happen I think.

Not comparable salary wise are they? Otherwise I would as well even though I agree that Kelly O is soft

gyso wrote:Theis was nice.

Wagner (Vagner) is . . .

I got nothing.

Wagner is not a very good rebounder. He is big and strong but does not have a real nose for the ball. It like he is holding something back, I did like him in college

Most of what happened was to stay below the tax line and add some wing depth.

Jared Weiss @JaredWeissNBA
about 42 minutes ago
Mo Wagner had his physical in Boston this AM. Fournier having his physical this afternoon while Kornet is driving up to Milwaukee from Chicago today. Wagner could fly in to Milwaukee today while Fournier should be flying to OKC tomorrow to join the team there.


Bob
MY NOTE: Apparently Luke Kornet is NOT going to be waived, or he wouldn't be driving to join our team in Milwaukee.


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Chris Grenham @chrisgrenham
about 21 minutes ago
Danny Ainge on @Toucherandrich on Moe Wagner: "Moe is a young player that hasn't had a lot of opportunities yet. ... What I love about Moe is his energy. ... He's a scrappy, hard-playing guy. We think he has the ability to stretch the floor."


Bob
MY NOTE:  I watched a bunch of film on Mo Wagner yesterday.  He isn't what I expected.  I thought, at 6'11", 250#, he'd be some lead-footed clunker.  He's not.  He's a rim runner.  Decent handles (better than RWill's).  Statistically he's an awful rebounder for his size.  I'll have to watch him play to figure out why that is.  I have been a big fan of Daniel Theis' since I first heard Danny signed him and I watched as much German League film I could find on him.  He has been an underrated and largely underappreciated starting center for a team that was a top 5 defensive team for multiple years.  That's not by accident.  He deserves a good pay day, and I hope Chicago gives him one since it wouldn't/couldn't be us. Auf Wiedersehen und Viel Gluck, Kumpel (credit to Google Translate).

Mo will be drilled, relentlessly, to shoot more from the outside.  Danny just flat-out said that above, he thinks Mo will "stretch the floor".  If it's going to be 'bombs away' for Wagner his rebounding numbers are not going up much, certainly not on the offensive end which is where his energy could work to his advantage since offensive rebounding is mostly about ganas.


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bobheckler wrote:Chris Grenham @chrisgrenham
about 21 minutes ago
Danny Ainge on @Toucherandrich on Moe Wagner: "Moe is a young player that hasn't had a lot of opportunities yet. ... What I love about Moe is his energy. ... He's a scrappy, hard-playing guy. We think he has the ability to stretch the floor."


Bob
MY NOTE:  I watched a bunch of film on Mo Wagner yesterday.  He isn't what I expected.  I thought, at 6'11", 250#, he'd be some lead-footed clunker.  He's not.  He's a rim runner.  Decent handles (better than RWill's).  Statistically he's an awful rebounder for his size.  I'll have to watch him play to figure out why that is.  I have been a big fan of Daniel Theis' since I first heard Danny signed him and I watched as much German League film I could find on him.  He has been an underrated and largely underappreciated starting center for a team that was a top 5 defensive team for multiple years.  That's not by accident.  He deserves a good pay day, and I hope Chicago gives him one since it wouldn't/couldn't be us.

Mo will be drilled, relentlessly, to shoot more from the outside.  Danny just flat-out said that above, he thinks Mo will "stretch the floor".  If it's going to be 'bombs away' for Wagner his rebounding numbers are not going up much, certainly not on the offensive end which is where his energy could work to his advantage since offensive rebounding is mostly about ganas.


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That’s great news bob I trust your eye test, he could be exactly the young vet with a lot to prove that can add an element to a team that I have been pining for Danny to look for. I too saw him on a drive/dunk and was surprised with his athleticism on that particular play....he can’t be a worse rebounder than our reserve 4’s, he’s 6’11”-7’0” with better coaching I’m thinking he can be an adequate rebounder.

dboss wrote:

gyso wrote:Theis was nice.

Wagner (Vagner) is . . .

I got nothing.

Wagner is not a very good rebounder.  He is big and strong but does not have a real nose for the ball.  It like he is holding something back,  I did like him in college

Most of what happened was to stay below the tax line and add some wing depth.

You totally missed the point of my post. I was looking for something short that rhymes, not a critique of his game.

You know: Theis is nice. Vogner is . . . or Mo is slow? LOL

bobheckler wrote:Jared Weiss @JaredWeissNBA
about 42 minutes ago
Mo Wagner had his physical in Boston this AM. Fournier having his physical this afternoon while Kornet is driving up to Milwaukee from Chicago today. Wagner could fly in to Milwaukee today while Fournier should be flying to OKC tomorrow to join the team there.


Bob
MY NOTE:  Apparently Luke Kornet is NOT going to be waived, or he wouldn't be driving to join our team in Milwaukee.


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I don't think he, or anyone else, will be waived until we see who Danny Ainge can get on the buy out list.

gyso wrote:

dboss wrote:

gyso wrote:Theis was nice.

Wagner (Vagner) is . . .

I got nothing.

Wagner is not a very good rebounder.  He is big and strong but does not have a real nose for the ball.  It like he is holding something back,  I did like him in college

Most of what happened was to stay below the tax line and add some wing depth.

You totally missed the point of my post.  I was looking for something short that rhymes, not a critique of his game.

You know:  Theis is nice.  Vogner is . . .  or Mo is slow?  LOL

Mo n' Go. The Big Mo (credit to Bush 41). Vog the Impaler (going a little crazy here). If he makes clutch shots he could be Mo Money. If he becomes a fan favorite then he could be Mo Town. If his BBIQ is poor he'd be MOron. It would be easy if he was also a blogger.


Bob


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Bob,

I like Mo n' Go, especially if he can do it successfully 2 or 3 (or Mo) times a game.

gyso wrote:

dboss wrote:

gyso wrote:Theis was nice.

Wagner (Vagner) is . . .

I got nothing.

Wagner is not a very good rebounder.  He is big and strong but does not have a real nose for the ball.  It like he is holding something back,  I did like him in college

Most of what happened was to stay below the tax line and add some wing depth.

You totally missed the point of my post.  I was looking for something short that rhymes, not a critique of his game.

You know:  Theis is nice.  Vogner is . . .  or Mo is slow?  LOL

The German army was practicing drills marching up and down. It  was a rhythmic cadence, left, right, left right, left right while shouting tick talk, tick talk, tick talk.  But one soldier just keep saying tick, tick, tick.  The German commander says to him.  "I VANT you to know that we have ways to make you talk"

Since I am in the  Washington Demo here, I have seen him play a few times the past couple years on the tube (TV).

He's willing to mix it up a bit and seems to have a bit of a nasty streak (should become buds with Smart I think). Skill set is probably best suited for Euro ball to be frank though.

he can bring energy off the bench and if he improves his outside shot here, Ainge might sign to him for a second NBA contract (on his rookie deal now , so I would guess a RFA next season).

can't ask for much more for a guy making around $2M.

I know people will try to compare him to Theis, bur frankly that's unfair to the young man, IMO.

Theis is gone because Ainge got Fournier and simply couldn't resign both next year. Fournier is a better player than Theis and thats the reasoning I think came into play.

Wagner has Mo-tential.

His best game ever last season was 30 points and 15 rebounds.

I liked him in college and during the run up to the draft I wrote a post about him becoming a stretch 5.

Anyways he is only 23 years old and sometimes players just need to be on the right team. He is a low volume shooter from deep (1.7 attempts per game this year) So it is really hard to judge his reliability. I think he will be better than we may think. Anyways we will root for his success because this team needs all the help it can muster.

dboss wrote:

gyso wrote:

dboss wrote:

gyso wrote:Theis was nice.

Wagner (Vagner) is . . .

I got nothing.

Wagner is not a very good rebounder.  He is big and strong but does not have a real nose for the ball.  It like he is holding something back,  I did like him in college

Most of what happened was to stay below the tax line and add some wing depth.

You totally missed the point of my post.  I was looking for something short that rhymes, not a critique of his game.

You know:  Theis is nice.  Vogner is . . .  or Mo is slow?  LOL

The German army was practicing drills marching up and down. It  was a rhythmic cadence, left, right, left right, left right while shouting tick talk, tick talk, tick talk.  But one soldier just keep saying tick, tick, tick.  The German commander says to him.  "I VANT you to know that we have ways to make you talk"

I tell the same joke, except with a broken German clock. It only goes tick, tick, tick. The clock repairman comes in and says, "Vee have vays of making you tock!" I think I heard it on Hogan's Heroes.

gyso wrote:

dboss wrote:

gyso wrote:Theis was nice.

Wagner (Vagner) is . . .

I got nothing.

Wagner is not a very good rebounder.  He is big and strong but does not have a real nose for the ball.  It like he is holding something back,  I did like him in college

Most of what happened was to stay below the tax line and add some wing depth.

You totally missed the point of my post.  I was looking for something short that rhymes, not a critique of his game.

You know:  Theis is nice.  Vogner is . . .  or Mo is slow?  LOL

I’m still working on it..........I did get your point.

Is there any way that Danny can be bought out like...today?

bobheckler wrote:

gyso wrote:

dboss wrote:

gyso wrote:Theis was nice.

Wagner (Vagner) is . . .

I got nothing.

Wagner is not a very good rebounder.  He is big and strong but does not have a real nose for the ball.  It like he is holding something back,  I did like him in college

Most of what happened was to stay below the tax line and add some wing depth.

You totally missed the point of my post.  I was looking for something short that rhymes, not a critique of his game.

You know:  Theis is nice.  Vogner is . . .  or Mo is slow?  LOL

Mo n' Go.  The Big Mo (credit to Bush 41).  Vog the Impaler (going a little crazy here).  If he makes clutch shots he could be Mo Money.  If he becomes a fan favorite then he could be Mo Town.  If his BBIQ is poor he'd be MOron.  It would be easy if he was also a blogger.  


Bob


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Let’s not put too much pressure on our new stiff errr i mean kid. After all he has a lot to Mo to live up to. There’s Mo Cheeks, Mo Williams......

Sean Grande @SeanGrandePBP
about 31 minutes ago
Brad Stevens was caught "completely off guard" by the Theis trade coming minutes after the deadline yesterday. Full conversation coming shortly @985TheSportsHub


Bob


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You know, if you watch the Danny Ainge interview where he begins by thanking Theis, Green, and Teague, then he goes on to say why he had to make the move, it was interesting because at the end he said “you know, the NBS is funny, you never know” or something to that affect. It was almost like saying, if he could, at some point, it would sign Theis again. Try listening to the 98.5 interview. Maybe I was just hearing what I want, but he was sad to let Theis go. It may have been the interview of pregame with Abby, Scal and Perk

RosalieTCeltics wrote:You know, if you watch the Danny Ainge interview where he begins by thanking Theis, Green, and Teague, then he goes on to say why he had to make the move, it was interesting because at the end he said “you know, the NBS is funny, you never know” or something to that affect. It was almost like saying, if he could, at some point, it would sign Theis again. Try listening to the 98.5 interview. Maybe I was just hearing what I want, but he was sad to let Theis go.  It may have been the interview of pregame with Abby, Scal and Perk

Rosalie,

Do you know how I can listen to 98.5 online?  I'm going to go search around a bit, I hope there's a way.

Found it?

https://985thesportshub.com/

Was it Toucher and Rich?

bobheckler wrote:

gyso wrote:

dboss wrote:

gyso wrote:Theis was nice.

Wagner (Vagner) is . . .

I got nothing.

Wagner is not a very good rebounder.  He is big and strong but does not have a real nose for the ball.  It like he is holding something back,  I did like him in college

Most of what happened was to stay below the tax line and add some wing depth.

You totally missed the point of my post.  I was looking for something short that rhymes, not a critique of his game.

You know:  Theis is nice.  Vogner is . . .  or Mo is slow?  LOL

Mo n' Go.  The Big Mo (credit to Bush 41).  Vog the Impaler (going a little crazy here).  If he makes clutch shots he could be Mo Money.  If he becomes a fan favorite then he could be Mo Town.  If his BBIQ is poor he'd be MOron.  It would be easy if he was also a blogger.  


Bob


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They called him.Mo Swag in Washington

you know Gyso, it might have been pregame interview with Abby and Scal and Perk that I was referring to

So...they give this guy a uniform and he plays, and then they may cut him if the Drummond thing goes thru??? I am assuming we do have to cut someone, am I wrong there? I just wonder, how many guys are we going to have at the 5? Aren't Thompson and Drummond redundant