Marcus Smart

Now I’m seeing articles Smart is gonna be traded?

Say it ain't so.

I hear things I hear things

https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/celtics/celtics-offseason-why-marcus-smart-robert-williams-extensions-make-sense?int



The case for extending Marcus Smart and Robert Williams


2H AGO

BY CHRIS FORSBERG
CELTICS INSIDER



The idea of extending both Marcus Smart and Robert Williams before the start of next season seemingly runs counter to the Boston Celtics' rather obvious goal of maintaining maximum flexibility moving forward.

But the reality is that extending both players actually could make it easier for the Celtics to construct a championship-caliber roster. After largely sitting out the free-agency period, Brad Stevens can create multiple paths to a big-splash addition by extending both Smart and Williams.


The case for extending Robert Williams

With Williams, the case for an extension is simple -- and not just because the author of this article is the unabashed president of the Robert Williams III Fan Club (Memberships still available, apply online!).

Williams, who already owns the “probably my favorite person to play with” stamp from superstar teammate Jayson Tatum, is set to be a restricted free agent after the season. While the Celtics would have the ability to match any offer he receives next summer, a healthy and productive season could cause Williams’ price tag to skyrocket. If there’s potential to lock him up at a rate that’s beneficial to both sides, the Celtics can ease future cap concerns by striking early.

Here’s the more nerdy part: Williams will carry an $11 million cap hold next summer. Re-signing him this summer to a deal starting in, say, the low teens ($13 or 14 million starting salary?) does not heavily infringe on potentially available cap space.

The Celtics are unlikely to be able to clear the necessary space to pay a 10-plus-year veteran (like Bradley Beal) the full 35 percent max next summer and may need their star target to take a discount. Having Williams locked in as part of this core might be helpful in recruiting that star at less-than-max money.

Even if Williams isn’t in Boston’s future plans, he’d be an attractive trade asset on a modest extension. The only reason not to extend Williams would be long-term fears about his durability (and in that case, the team ought to move him this season with hopes of generating future assets), or if Williams wants to bank on himself in hopes of bigger payday next offseason.


The case for extending Marcus Smart

Whether Smart is the Celtics' starting point guard of the future is one of the biggest questions entering the 2021-22 season. For the first time, the Celtics will toss the point guard keys to Smart and see just how much he’s able to accentuate the talents of Tatum and Jaylen Brown when he’s more than just the backup quarterback.

Trading a non-extended Smart during the season could generate minimal return. A team is unlikely to overpay for a potential rental in the final year of his contract. An extend-and-trade might work but Boston essentially would have to determine before the start of the year that Smart isn’t part of its future, which would make the outlook for the 2021-22 season even bleaker than it already is.

The Celtics can offer Smart a four-year extension starting at 120 percent of his 2021-22 salary. That prices out to about 4 years, $77.2 million with a deal that would kick in at the start of the 2022-23 season. That extension shuffles Smart close to his reported goal of $20ish million per season and offers long-term security for the 27-year-old guard.

Given his new long-term contract, Smart likely becomes a more valuable trade asset -- especially if he reestablishes himself as an All-Defense presence after last year’s downturn.


Two extensions; multiple paths forward

With Smart and Williams extended, the Celtics still have multiple paths forward:

Path 1: Trading for a disgruntled star next season
Maybe the Celtics get into the 2021-22 season and the Smart/Williams/Tatum/Brown quartet shows promise. The Celtics identify they still need another piece but feel like they have four of their five starters in place and simply yearn to add an impact player via trade instead of pursuing cap space.

Boston still has Al Horford’s partially guaranteed contract for the 2022-23 and all their future first-round draft picks to help assemble a trade for any big-ticket player who becomes available. The development of players like Aaron Nesmith and Romeo Langford could aid that pursuit, too, by giving Boston desirable young talent as part of the package.

Is that enough to outbid all suitors? It could depend on how badly that disgruntled star -- Beal or otherwise -- wants to play in Boston.

Adding an impact talent via trade would send the Celtics into the tax in future seasons when the Smart/Williams extensions kick in, but it might limit how much you need to gut the current roster to add another star. The expense is losing future draft assets in any trade.

Path 2: Need a little free-agent help, but not a max player
If Smart and Williams accentuate the talents of the Jays, then Boston could target a less glitzy free-agent splash. Instead of feverishly clearing space in hopes of a near-max player, Boston has an easier path to roughly $20 million in space, all while maintaining much of its core.

Boston would still have to move Horford’s deal, likely at the expense of a future first-round pick, but the team could go into the summer of 2022 with Tatum, Brown, Smart, Williams, Nesmith, Payton Pritchard, and their 2022 first-round pick on the roster. Even with incomplete roster charges, the Celtics’ would have roughly $20 million in cap space to pursue a mid-tier free agent.


Celtics salary projections 2022
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Beal is out of the picture here, but the Celtics could target a young star whom they think might pair well moving forward with the core. That amount puts them in a position where they could make a Lonzo Ball-type splurge next summer. Boston then would fill out its roster with minimum-salary players with hopes that a talent-filled starting five would help attract championship-chasing veterans.


Path 3: Sign-and-trade for Bradley Beal
In a quest to get Beal to Boston but also get him the most money possible, the Celtics engage the Wizards on a sign-and-trade in the summer of 2022.

Beal has signaled his desire to play in Boston and bluffs as if he’s willing to simply sign into their cap space at less than the full max. In fear of losing him without recouping value, the Wizards cooperate in a sign-and-trade with Boston sending back some combination of talent and picks.


Bob


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cowens/oldschool wrote:I hear things I hear things

Schizophrenia?

Mark Murphy @Murf56
about 14 minutes ago
Hear that the three-team trade (Bos.-ATL-Sac) will be announced soon, unchanged. ... Celtics await a response from Smart agent Jason Glushon, but are said to be willing to extend him for roughly $17M over four years.


Bob


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Let's see if he is smart (haha) enough to accept this offer. Last time he was up he turned the offer down, then ended up signing for less than the original offer. Interesting.

We are still saddled with Kris Dunn, what to do with him

RosalieTCeltics wrote:Let's see if he is smart (haha) enough to accept this offer. Last time he was up he turned the offer down, then ended up signing for less than the original offer.  Interesting.  

We are still saddled with Kris Dunn, what to do with him

Why do I have this weird memory that Smart was seeking a 4/50 but the Celts did not act on it until the Kawhi trade dust settled. He was pissed. However, the Celts signed him up for 4/52. Just the last statement is a fact. Others are vague memory of things picked up from some past reports.

If the Celts extend Smart then the whole idea of salary cap space goes out of the window. I have no idea what is going on right now.

gyso????

Rosalie,

My first thought would be agree with prakash,

"If the Celts extend Smart then the whole idea of salary cap space goes out of the window. I have no idea what is going on right now."

My second thought is that I don't see how the two parts of the tweet posted by BobH are related.  They can talk to Smart all they want, but resigning him is (once again) secondary to signing someone into our cap space next summer.  That is, unless his cap hold is worse than the salary in his first season of a new contract.

So much is still in the air.  First things first . . .

Complete the dang 3 (or 5) team trade!!  We need input, Stephanie!!

prakash wrote:

RosalieTCeltics wrote:Let's see if he is smart (haha) enough to accept this offer. Last time he was up he turned the offer down, then ended up signing for less than the original offer.  Interesting.  

We are still saddled with Kris Dunn, what to do with him

Why do I have this weird memory that Smart was seeking a 4/50 but the Celts did not act on it until the Kawhi trade dust settled.  He was pissed.  However, the Celts signed him up for 4/52.  Just the last statement is a fact.  Others are vague memory of things picked up from some past reports.

If the Celts extend Smart then the whole idea of salary cap space goes out of the window.  I have no idea what is going on right now.

Prakash,

Smart is making $13.8M this year. 4/50 is $12.5M/ year. I don't think he'll take a pay cut.


Bob


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Reports say the offer was 4 years, $77M.  That's $19.25M per year.  If he really was looking for $20 then $19.25M is pretty close.  C'mon Marcus!  Hometown Discount!!



Bob


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Am I wrong…did he not turn down Danny’s first offer for this last contract and end up signing for less in the end. I believe he had no takers out there for what he was being offered. That is the way I remember the story

This darn trade business is ridiculous, is someone backing out, or are they trying to Mae it 4 team trade and it is too confusing for the powers that be??? Players involved have to be a little ticked off. Just business I guess. I think today is the final dal for this trade so we sure hear something.

bobheckler wrote:

prakash wrote:

RosalieTCeltics wrote:Let's see if he is smart (haha) enough to accept this offer. Last time he was up he turned the offer down, then ended up signing for less than the original offer.  Interesting.  

We are still saddled with Kris Dunn, what to do with him

Why do I have this weird memory that Smart was seeking a 4/50 but the Celts did not act on it until the Kawhi trade dust settled.  He was pissed.  However, the Celts signed him up for 4/52.  Just the last statement is a fact.  Others are vague memory of things picked up from some past reports.

If the Celts extend Smart then the whole idea of salary cap space goes out of the window.  I have no idea what is going on right now.

Prakash,

Smart is making  $13.8M this year.  4/50 is $12.5M/ year.   I don't think he'll take a pay cut.


Bob


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I was talking about his last contract. There were reports about what he is asking and there was no movement from the Celts side. Then the Kawhi dust settled. Suddenly it was reported that Smart signed for 2M more than what was reported as his asking price. That where 4/50 vs. 4/52 is coming from.

bobheckler wrote:Reports say the offer was 4 years, $77M.  That's $19.25M per year.  If he really was looking for $20 then $19.25M is pretty close.  C'mon Marcus!  Hometown Discount!!



Bob


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That is the max allowed under the rules. 19.25.

Marcus just signed a 4 year 77 million dollar contract with us, good for you Marcus, stay healthy and keep going right at them.

cowens/oldschool wrote:Marcus just signed a 4 year 77 million dollar contract with us, good for you Marcus, stay healthy and keep going right at them.

One more done

Good.

Locking him up for 4 more years was the right move to make

This is simply excellent news for the Celtics. Excellent. Way to go Brad!

bobheckler wrote:

cowens/oldschool wrote:Marcus just signed a 4 year 77 million dollar contract with us, good for you Marcus, stay healthy and keep going right at them.

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— marcus smart (@smart_MS3) August 16, 2021


MY NOTE:  7 shamrocks for the years he's already been here plus 4 more for the extension.

Excellent move.

To attract free agents later, you first need some building blocks in place.

Tatum, Brown and Smart under contract should be a good look when trying to put the rest of the puzzle together.

bobheckler wrote:
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— marcus smart (@smart_MS3) August 16, 2021


MY NOTE:  7 shamrocks for the years he's already been here plus 4 more for the extension.

Marcus didn't include a shamrock for next season.

7 for the seasons he has already been here,

1 for next season already in his contract,

4 for the 4 more to come in the extension.

Smart and the Boston Celtics have agreed to a four-year, $77 million contract extension, per ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski. If you include the final year remaining on Smart's current contract, he will receive around $90 million from the C's through the 2025-26 season.

https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/celtics/nba-rumors-celtics-marcus-smart-agree-four-year-contract-extension

If he stays a Celtic until the end of the last season of the new contract, that will be 12 years total in green. That's quite an accomplishment.

I am happy that Marcus Smart is in the fold. He is Iguodala of the Celts.

So the salary-cap-space play is out of the window. Are we planning to play the youngsters? But we have added veterans on the roster!

I guess Brad as a coach always said that all that you can strive for is to get better. Looks like that is what Brad the GM has done here. Whoever they play, the upcoming season should be way more exciting than the abomination of the 2020-21 season.