Re: Report: Anthony Davis' list of preferred long-term destinations does not include Celtics

by **bobheckler** Tue Feb 05, 2019 2:22 pm

dboss wrote:
worcester wrote:Why would AD want to sign with a totally depleted Lakers team, save Lebron?

LA may just be able to sign a FA turning LA into a super team. It is however a narrow view for a guy in it for the long term. Lebron has more mileage on him than any player in the NBA. Yet there has been very little drop off in his productivity. He is a phenomenal athlete.

The Lakers have played 53 games so far. LeBron has played in 35 of them. If LeBron plays in every game for the rest of the season he will end up in 64 games. That would be the 2nd fewest games/season in his career, only 2011-2012 did he play fewer (62). He is a phenomenal athlete, but so was Kobe and time waits for no man. Kobe played in 58 games when he was 33 years old, 78 the next year and then 6, in the year he blew out his achilles. He was 35 years old when that season-ending injury struck. He had been playing in the NBA since he was 18 years old. LeBron when he was 19. LeBron is 34 years old, has already missed far more games than usual and the Lakers are now in 10th place in the West. AD or no AD LeBron has got to start playing heavy minutes again for the Lakers to make the playoffs this year. That shouldn't be too hard, they aren't far out of them (1 1/2 games out of 8th), but heavy minutes are heavy minutes and he's not getting younger.

bob

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by **dboss** Tue Feb 05, 2019 2:50 pm

Bob

Father time comes a knocking on the door when we least expect his visit.

by **steve3344** Tue Feb 05, 2019 3:24 pm

Lakers have supposedly pulled out.

https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/ny-sports-anthony-davis-lakers-pelicans-20190205-story.html

by **NYCelt** Tue Feb 05, 2019 3:25 pm

dboss wrote:Bob

Farther time comes a knocking on the door when we least expect his visit.

This would explain why my elbow hurt all morning and I didn't do a thing to injure it yesterday.

by **dboss** Tue Feb 05, 2019 3:57 pm

dboss wrote:Bob

Father time comes a knocking on the door when we least expect his visit.

by **dboss** Tue Feb 05, 2019 4:00 pm

NYCelt wrote:
dboss wrote:Bob

Farther time comes a knocking on the door when we least expect his visit.

This would explain why my elbow hurt all morning and I didn't do a thing to injure it yesterday.

You got that right. I just turned 69 in December and I challenge anyone out there to convince me that London Bridge is not falling down.

by **dboss** Tue Feb 05, 2019 4:05 pm

When will wives and offspring be thrown into the pot?

The Lakers on Monday night added two more young players -- Josh Hart and Ivica Zubac -- to a trade package that already included Brandon Ingram, Kyle Kuzma, Lonzo Ball and two first-round picks, sources said.

by **dbrown4** Tue Feb 05, 2019 4:08 pm

I love the dysfunctional Lakers!! From top to bottom!

db

by **Shamrock1000** Tue Feb 05, 2019 4:11 pm

Couple of thoughts. First, the problem for the Lakers is simply they don't have any players (other than Lebron) whom anybody would want. People (writers) keep propagating this fantasy that Ingram and Ball are coveted throughout the league. They are not. They are both disappointments. Personally, I still think Ingram might one day be a decent player, but he is not perceived the same way as Tatum or even Brown. Ball can't shoot, and it doesn't look like he ever will be able to shoot; this puts a serious ceiling on his potential . Kuzma is a decent player, but not the centerpiece of a Davis trade. Additionally, the Lakers are not bad enough to have a shot of drafting number one, so their picks aren't all that attractive. They could add 10 picks without really increasing the value of their package.

I don't agree with the idea that Danny wants AD as a means of signing Kyrie. AD is the prize in and of himself. It is more likely that he wishes he could lock up Kyrie long term to make the team more attractive to AD. Danny has been coveting AD for years, and he has assembled enough assets that he could get him without gutting the team. I don't think Tatum is necessarily going out either. Of course that is who NO wants, but the Celtics have enough other assets to put together a good package without including Tatum. We do not have to try to give them equal value, we just have to put together a better package than anyone else. We can do that without including Tatum. That being said, if Danny feels Tatum is the only way to get AD, Tatum is gone. I don't think there would be any agonizing decisions or sleepless nights, Danny would simply be ecstatic to get Davis.

by **dboss** Tue Feb 05, 2019 4:39 pm

The singular problem is the collaboration between AD, his agent, Rich Paul/Lebron James and the Lakers to conspire to force NOLA to make a trade right now in the middle of the season.

They are putting out all types of propaganda and disrespecting the NBA and the NO franchise. They are stupid to think that everyone else is stupid.

AD may not be worth all of this but just watching LAL sweat gives me great pleasure. NOLA needs to say hell no just on GP. They do not have to trade him for another year if they choose. LAL goes from one proposal to another as Thursday's deadline approaches.

It is hard to get away with all this bullshit when it stinks to high heaven.

by **dboss** Tue Feb 05, 2019 5:13 pm

There ya go NO DEAL!

https://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers/la-sp-lakers-anthony-davis-trade-talks-20190205-story.html

by **dbrown4** Tue Feb 05, 2019 6:40 pm

BTW, is this what AD himself said or is this what Rich Paul said? Just curious.

db

by **NYCelt** Wed Feb 06, 2019 5:09 pm

dbrown4 wrote:BTW, is this what AD himself said or is this what Rich Paul said? Just curious.

db

AD has just never been to the No Name. That's the problem. Get him there for a couple of these, then negotiate...

Report: Anthony Davis' list of preferred long-term destinations does not include Celtics - Page 2 No_nam10

by **gyso** Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:33 pm

NYCelt wrote:
dbrown4 wrote:BTW, is this what AD himself said or is this what Rich Paul said? Just curious.

db

AD has just never been to the No Name. That's the problem. Get him there for a couple of these, then negotiate...

What memories. Since I don't want to trade for AD, I'll find out when his reservation is and . . .

Cancel it!!!

Apparently, that's a thing. Razz

by **kdp59** Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:37 pm

According to league sources, the Pelicans reached out to the Celtics this week to discuss the framework of a possible Davis deal, ostensibly to ensure that if they pass up on other offers before Thursday’s deadline, it would be for good reason. – via Boston Globe
Top Rumors, Trade, Anthony Davis, Boston Celtics, New Orleans Pelicans

Storyline: Anthony Davis to Celtics?
Sources said the Pelicans have sought guarantees from the Celtics surrounding specific packages, but the Celtics have been reluctant to make absolute promises, simply because so much can transpire in five months, such as injuries. Nevertheless, sources said, the Celtics have made it clear that they will be ready and willing to offer an explosive package when the time arrives, and that no specific player will be off limits in negotiations. – via Boston Globe
Top Rumors, Trade, Anthony Davis, Boston Celtics, New Orleans Pelicans

While questions about the long-term Celtic futures of Irving and perhaps Davis loom, sources said it has been made clear from ownership down that the focus of this season should be on trying to win a championship now. Within the organization, there is a belief that it remains possible, and the fact that the Celtics have won 10 of their last 11 games, have the third-best net rating in the league, and have generally thrived when healthy has served as evidence. – via Boston Globe

by **NYCelt** Wed Feb 06, 2019 7:33 pm

gyso,

A thing indeed!

Excellent memory. Although there were a few suspects, the perpetrator was never found.

Regards

by **dboss** Wed Feb 06, 2019 7:55 pm

gyso wrote:
NYCelt wrote:
dbrown4 wrote:BTW, is this what AD himself said or is this what Rich Paul said? Just curious.

db

AD has just never been to the No Name. That's the problem. Get him there for a couple of these, then negotiate...

What memories. Since I don't want to trade for AD, I'll find out when his reservation is and . . .

Cancel it!!!

Apparently, that's a thing.

As long as Danny does not take him up to Chipotle, we got a shot.

My guess is that Danny will be allowed to have a conversation with AD before making the trade. The pitch is simple. "You want to win a championship and establish a legacy. We believe you can do that in Boston. The only thing that we ask is that you come in as a veteran leader and help us help you achieve your goals." We talked to Kyrie and he said he would love to play with you. Both of you guys are so young that you both have a long term future of playing together and competing for championships. We have a great ownership group that does not mind spending money. Our fan base will blow you away with their support and enthusiasm. Our coach is outstanding. His players love him. They love playing for him. We just ask that you give the Celtics a chance. We want you because you are absolutely one of the best players in the NBA....etc, etc"

by **bobc33** Wed Feb 06, 2019 8:02 pm

NYCelt wrote:gyso,

A thing indeed!

Excellent memory. Although there were a few suspects, the perpetrator was never found.

Regards

Will never forget that night!

by **bobheckler** Wed Feb 06, 2019 8:03 pm

Chris Mannix: “Boston is not saying [to New Orleans] that Jayson Tatum will be in the [Anthony Davis] deal. That’s what I’ve been told. They’re not saying he’s not, but they’re not going to directly say that they’re willing to trade Jayson Tatum, because the Celtics are trying to balance these trade talks with what they’re trying to do this year.”

bob

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by **bobheckler** Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:02 pm

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/nba-rumors-anthony-davis-adamant-032736723.html

NBA rumors: Anthony Davis 'adamant' he will not sign long-term deal with Celtics

Justin Leger,NBC Sports Boston 14 hours ago

If the Celtics do pull off a trade for Anthony Davis this summer, it appears he would be a rental.

Boston was not included on Davis' original list of long-term destinations, and the superstar big man apparently isn't budging. Davis "remains adamant" he will not sign a long-term contract with the Celtics if they make a deal for him this summer, according to Marc Stein of The New York Times.

Marc Stein

@TheSteinLine
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Anthony Davis has the Knicks on equal footing with the Lakers in terms of teams he is interested in signing with long-term, @NYTSports has learned. The Clippers and Bucks also remain preferred destinations on his list

Marc Stein

@TheSteinLine
Sources say Davis, meanwhile, remains adamant that he will not sign a long-term deal with Boston if the Celtics trade for him in July and that he would like to play out the rest of the season for the Pelicans if there's no trade by tomorrow's deadline

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6:53 PM - Feb 6, 2019

The Celtics reportedly are prepared to offer the Pelicans an "explosive package" for Davis this summer. However, the 25-year-old's unwillingness to commit long-term could throw a wrench into Boston's plans.

Unless the Lakers make a last-ditch effort to acquire Davis before Thursday's trade deadline, Davis very well could be on the table for the C's come July 1. The question is whether Davis would have a change of heart regarding a commitment to Boston, and that very well could hinge on Kyrie Irving re-signing.

bob
MY NOTE: I am becoming more and more uncomfortable with this with each passing moment.

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by **mrkleen09** Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:02 pm

Danny will not do this unless it is a sign and trade. He would destroy this franchise and his legacy in one afternoon if he gives up Brown, Smart, Tatum and 4 picks for a guy who leaves the next year.

Not going to happen.

by **cowens/oldschool** Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:12 pm

Gyso NYCelt you guys are making me hungry!!!!!

by **cowens/oldschool** Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:13 pm

Fuck Anthony Davis!!!!

by **dboss** Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:17 pm

mrkleen09 wrote:Danny will not do this unless it is a sign and trade. He would destroy this franchise and his legacy in one afternoon if he gives up Brown, Smart, Tatum and 4 picks for a guy who leaves the next year.

Not going to happen.

I have to agree here but that is not difficult. Giving up 2 of the 3 plus picks is tough enough to swallow. Turning that into 3 and a ton of picks is just plan foolish.

I cannot believe that Danny would do that. I cannot think of one player in the NBA that is that valuable.

by **gyso** Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:50 pm

cowens/oldschool wrote:Fuck Anthony Davis!!!!

Let him go to the NY Knicks. Then we can beat him four or more times a year for the rest of his career.

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