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Post by bobheckler Fri Mar 08, 2019 9:21 am

https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2019/03/boston-celtics-draft-2019-after-win-over-sacramento-kings-here-are-five-draft-prospects-to-watch.html



Boston Celtics draft 2019: After win over Sacramento Kings, here are five draft prospects to watch



Updated Mar 7, 9:20 AM; Posted Mar 7, 8:05 AM


By Tom Westerholm | twesterh@masslive.com



SACRAMENTO -- The Boston Celtics defeated the Sacramento Kings 111-109 on Wednesday, after Gordon Hayward’s leaning transition jumper propelled the Celtics to their second consecutive much-needed victory.

The Celtics helped themselves twice with the win. First and foremost, they improved to 40-26, closing the gap with the Philadelphia 76ers to 1.5 games after Philly lost to the Chicago Bulls.

Second, the Celtics dropped Sacramento a little further in the standings. Since the Celtics own the Kings pick (top-one protected courtesy of the 76ers), every Kings loss at this point is important.


As things stand, the Kings are solidly in 14th -- four games behind the Los Angeles Clippers, and 2.5 games ahead of the Minnesota Timberwolves and Los Angeles Lakers. So here are five players projected to go in that range worth keeping an eye on as the college basketball season stretches on.


BRANDON CLARKE, GONZAGA

There’s a reasonable chance Clarke ends up higher in the lottery, given his athleticism, frame and potential for defensive versatility. Clarke’s ceiling is a rim protector who can switch onto essentially any position defensively while knocking down pick-and-pop jumpers at the next level.


KEVIN PORTER, USC

Danny Ainge likes to swing for the fences (see Williams, Robert), and Porter would be a home-run swing. He was one of the best players in his high-school class, and he remains one of the more intriguing scorers at the collegiate level despite missing extended time for USC. Given his athleticism and potential as a scorer, the Celtics could see Porter as a player who can contribute off the bench in the short term with starter potential down the line.


KELDON JOHNSON, KENTUCKY

Could Keldon Johnson fall to the 14th pick? To be quite honest, probably not. But a lot of mock drafts have the Kentucky guard falling a bit, and if he does, the Celtics might be very interested. Johnson has an incredibly high motor, and he’s a solid athlete. Add in his surprisingly good 3-point shooting at the college level (38.4 this season), and perhaps teams are undervaluing one of the highest-rated recruits coming out of high school.


P.J. WASHINGTON, KENTUCKY

Washington has been one of the best players in the NCAA this season. A 6-foot-8 forward with one of the most devastating post games in college hoops, Washington has hit 43.5 percent of his triples. If Washington can switch and stretch the floor at the next level, his old-school game might actually translate well to the modern NBA.


COBY WHITE, NORTH CAROLINA

Looking for a potential Terry Rozier replacement? Look no further than White, who is shooting 37.8 percent from three on 6.5 attempts per game. White will be able to get buckets in a variety of ways at the NBA level, and the Celtics could use a player of his caliber as a point-of-attack lead ball-handler.

Of course, the Kings pick -- being in the lottery -- has the potential to jump up. If it does, this entire conversation changes, but if it doesn’t, the Celtics could still find themselves well within range of some impressive young players.


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Post by kdp59 Fri Mar 08, 2019 11:55 am

White at 14 might be nice...if he's there.

I have touted Washington here before as a favorite of mine but more at our own pick late in the first round.

maybe he moves up who knows, long time before the draft. But he has long arms and reminds me a little of Brandon Bass. If he can be that type of NBA players he'd be a nice pick in the late first for sure.
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Post by bobheckler Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:57 pm

As of 3/5/19 update, nbadraft.net has Boston picking Coby White @ #14.
6'5", 185#, 19 years old.  Just passed Michael Jordan's freshman scoring record at UNC.  Think about that for a second.

As of 2/17/19 update, mynbadraft.com has Boston picking Jontay Porter @ #14.
6'11 1/2" in sneakers, 7' 1/4" wingspan, 236#, 19 years old.  13.85% body fat in last year's NBA Combine.  Coming off an ACL injury.

ESPN has Boston picking Bol Bol @ #14 (mynbadraft.com had LAL taking him @ 13).
7'3", 7'8" wingspan, 236#, 19 years old.

As of 3/5/19 update, Bleacher Report has Boston taking Jontay Porter @ #14.

As of 2/28/19 update, Sports Illustrated has Boston taking Keldon Johnson @ #14.
6'6", 210#, 6'11"+ wingspan, freshman


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Post by dboss Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:19 pm

Porter and bol Bol should both be no. Injured guys are red flags. Plus we do not necessarily need to draft a center. A replacement for TR and MM seems to be our top 2 needs.

That of course is my opinion. However if a can't miss center fell to us than okay take him. This draft however looks strong for wings and guards but not for frontline guys.

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Post by kdp59 Sat Apr 13, 2019 8:01 am

new Hoops hype Aggregate draft mock

snapshot in time of course only. has a couple player writeups at the end of the article also


https://hoopshype.com/2019/04/12/nba-mock-draft-big-board-grant-williams-mfiondu-kabengele/


PLAYER AGG RANK
Zion Williams 1
Ja Morant 2
RJ Barrett 3
Jarrett Culver 4
De'Andre Hunter 5
Cameron Reddish 6
Darius Garland 7
Coby White 8
Jaxson Hayes 9
Romeo Langford 10
Nassir Little 11
Sekou Doumbouya 12
Rui Hachimura 13
PJ Washington 14
Keldon Johnson 15
Brandon Clarke 16
Kevin Porter 17
Nickeil Alexander-Walker 18
Bol Bol 19
Tyler Herro 20
KZ Okpala 21
Goga Bitadze 22
Cameron Johnson 23
Bruno Fernando 24
Grant Williams 25
Matisse Thybulle 26
Talen Horton-Tucker 27
Carsen Edwards 28
Ty Jerome 29
Daniel Gafford 30


Eric Paschall 31
Luguentz Dort 32
Jalen McDaniels 33
Dylan Windler 34
Admiral Schofield 35
Nazreon Reid 36
Mfiondu Kabengele 37
Jontay Porter 38
Chuma Okeke 39
Luka Samanic 40
Charles Bassey 41
Louis King 42
Jordan Nwora 43
Isaiah Roby 44
Ayo Dosunmu 45
Shamorie Ponds 46
Darius Bazley 47
Miye Oni 48
Moses Brown 49
Nic Claxton 50
Joshua Obiesie 51
Neemias Queta 52
Jaylen Hoard 53
Zach Norvell 54
Deividas Sirvydis 55
Ignas Brazdeikis 56
Dedric Lawson 57
Kris Wilkes 58
Ky Bowman 59
Jalen Lecque 60


Jaylen Nowell 61
Tyler Cook 62
Devon Dotson 63
Robert Franks 64
Tyrese Haliburton 65
Chris Clemons 66
Yovel Zoosman 67
Terance Mann 68
Jordan Poole 69
Udoka Azubuike 70
Brian Bowen 71
Zylan Cheatham 72
Adam Mokoka 73
Aric Holman 74
Alen Smailagic 75
Jordan Bone 76
Cassius Winston 77
Makai Mason 78
Charles Matthews 79
Matt Morgan 80
Tacko Fall 81
Killian Tillie 82
Aubrey Dawkins 83
Justin Wright-Foreman 84
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Post by kdp59 Sun Apr 14, 2019 12:02 pm

here is where I rank players currently

this is based on nothing at all except my brain (or lack of it)

Rank--Pos-------Player------------Hgt----Wgt -----College/Int
1-----PF-------Zion Williamson----6-6----280------Duke
2-----PG-------Ja Morant-----------6-3----175-----Murray St
3-----SG-------R J Barrett---------6-6-----210-----Duke
4-----PF-------DeAndre Hunter----6-8----225-----Virginia
5-----PG-------Koby White---------6-5----185-----North Caolina
6-----SG-------Jarrett Culver-------6-7----195-----Texas Tech
7-----SF-------Cameron Reddish---6-7----215-----Duke
8------C--------Jaxon Hayes--------6-11---220-----Texas
9-----PG-------Darius Garland------6-3----180-----Vanderbilt
10----SF--------Nassir Little---------6-6----220----N. Carolina
11----PF-------Brandon Clarke------6-8----210----Gonzaga
12----SG---Nickeil Alexander-Walker--6-5---205---Virginia Tech
13-----C--------Bol Bol---------------7-2----235-----Oregon
14----PF------Sekou Doumbouya----6-9----230-----Int
15----PF------Rui Hachimura--------6-8-----235----Gonzaga
16----SG------Keldon Johnson-------6-6----205-----Kentucky
17---SF/SG------KZ Okpala---------6-8-----195-----Stanford
18----SG--------Tyler Herro---------6-6------210----Kentucky
19-----C--------Bruno Fernando-----6-10----245----Maryland
20----SG--------Kevin Porter Jr------6-5-----220----USC
21-----C---------Goga Bitadze-------6-11----250----Int
22----SG--------Romeo Langford----6-6-----205----Indiana
23-----C---------Daniel Gafford-----6-10-----230----Arkansas
24----PG---------Ty Jerome----------6-5------200----Virginia
25----PF---------P J Washington-----6-8------235----Kentucky
26----SF----------Cam Johnson------6-8------210----North Caolina
27---PF/C--------Charles Bassey-----6-10-----245---W. Kentucky
28----PF----------Jalen McDaniels----6-10-----195---San Diego St
29----PF----------Grant Williams------6-7-----235----Tennessee
30----PG---------Carsen Edwards-----6-0-----200----Purdue

31----SG------Talen Horton-Tucker----6-4----230-----Iowa St
32----C----------Nazreon Reid---------6-10---250-----LSU
33----SF--------Dylan Windler---------6-8----200-----Belmont
34---PF/C------Mfiondu Kabengele----6-10---250-----Florida St
35----SF---------Jordan Nwora---------6-7----225-----Louisville
36----SF---------MatisseThybulle-------6-6----195-----Washington
37----SF----------Kris Wilkes-----------6-8----215------UCLA
38----SF---------Admiral Schofield-----6-5----238------Tennessee
39----PG----------Jaylen Nowell--------6-4----200------Washington
40----PF-----------Luka Samanic-------6-10---215------Int
41----PF-----------Robert Franks-------6-7----240------Washington St
42----SF/PF--------Eric Paschall--------6-7----260------Villianova
43----SG-----------Terance Mann-------6-6----215-----Florida St
44----PG------------Jalen Lecque-------6-4----185-----NC St
45----PF------------Chuma Okeke------6-8----235-----Auburn
46----SF------------Miye Oni------------6-6----210-----Yale
47----SG-----------Aubrey Dawkins----6-6-----205-----UCF
48-----C-------------Tacko Fall----------7-6-----295-----UCF
49----PF------------Darius Bazley------6-9-----200-----US
50----SG------------Adam Mokoka------6-5----210-----Int
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Post by dboss Thu May 23, 2019 3:55 pm

Was checking out Mfiondu Kabengele

PF/C with strong inside game and nice touch from deep.  Played at FSU

see highlights

https://www.google.com/search?q=mfiondu+kabengele+highlights&rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS534US534&oq=MFIONDUKABENGELE+h&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l3.8522j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
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Post by KyleCleric Thu May 30, 2019 11:05 am

Matisse Thybulle supposedly has a 1st round promise. Pulled out of the combine. Cs do make sense considering he’s a rangy, wing player who is a strong defender and that there are 3 1st round picks. If his outside shot becomes consistent, he’d be a solid rotational player.

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Post by kdp59 Thu May 30, 2019 12:14 pm

NBAdraftnet has the Celtics taking

Mfiondu Kabengele at #14!!!!!!!

https://www.nbadraft.net/players/mfiondu-kabengele


Keldon Johnson at #20

https://www.nbadraft.net/players/keldon-johnson

PJ Washington at #22

https://www.nbadraft.net/players/pj-washington


enjoy!
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Post by dboss Thu May 30, 2019 3:26 pm

kdp59 wrote:NBAdraftnet has the Celtics taking

Mfiondu Kabengele at #14!!!!!!!

https://www.nbadraft.net/players/mfiondu-kabengele


Keldon Johnson at #20

https://www.nbadraft.net/players/keldon-johnson

PJ Washington at #22

https://www.nbadraft.net/players/pj-washington


enjoy!

That is a fairly big jump but in some ways I am not surprised. Kabengele has some talent. these draft boards however do not look at teams needs.

This appears to be a weak draft for PG
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Post by dboss Thu May 30, 2019 3:44 pm

Kabengele.......His mother is the sister of all time great center Dikembe Mutombo

Draft nets says he is not very quick or athletic...what film were they watching
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Post by KyleCleric Thu May 30, 2019 4:04 pm

dboss wrote:

That is a fairly big jump but in some ways I am not surprised.  Kabengele  has some talent.  these draft boards however do not look at teams needs.

This appears to be a weak draft for PG

Yea. Looks like White and Garland in the top 10 and Alexander-Walker in the teens. Then there are few who could go in the 20s or 2nd round.

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Post by KyleCleric Thu May 30, 2019 4:10 pm

dboss wrote:Kabengele.......His mother is the sister of all time great center Dikembe Mutombo

Draft nets says he is not very quick or athletic...what film were they watching

Im not sure. Maybe they were looking at him as a PF and in terms of switchability on the perimeter. I see his best value as a center.

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Post by worcester Thu May 30, 2019 4:17 pm

NBA comparison Vin Baker? Oh please no! Not another major disappointment. I hope Vin is sober now. Tough road he went down.
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Post by kdp59 Thu May 30, 2019 4:18 pm

some write ups on the three from Draft room

http://www.nbadraftroom.com/p/mfiondu-kabengele.html

they have him at #23.

http://www.nbadraftroom.com/2017/08/keldon-johnson.html

They have Johnson going 17

http://www.nbadraftroom.com/2017/02/pj-washington.html

PJ they have going 29


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Post by dboss Thu May 30, 2019 4:29 pm

KyleCleric wrote:
dboss wrote:Kabengele.......His mother is the sister of all time great center Dikembe Mutombo

Draft nets says he is not very quick or athletic...what film were they watching

Im not sure. Maybe they were looking at him as a PF and in terms of switchability on the perimeter. I see his best value as a center.

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Seems to be able to score some in the post but can also stretch the floor. I see he was a bench player at 21 MPG. I think Boston should be able to find a decent player at 14.

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Post by worcester Thu May 30, 2019 4:43 pm

Danny, consolidate those draft picks and trade up from #14.
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Post by dboss Thu May 30, 2019 4:43 pm

What do you think about ty Jerome the PG from Virginia. does not look to be particulary fast but seems to know how to run the point and he can make shots

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfOFMeoeaIw
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Post by dboss Thu May 30, 2019 4:46 pm

worcester wrote:NBA comparison Vin Baker? Oh please no! Not another major disappointment. I hope Vin is sober now. Tough road he went down.

Most players in college have no idea who the F Vin Baker is.

So you say to the kid, "you remind me of Vin Baker"

The kid says "WHO"?
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Post by KyleCleric Thu May 30, 2019 4:52 pm

dboss wrote:
KyleCleric wrote:
dboss wrote:Kabengele.......His mother is the sister of all time great center Dikembe Mutombo

Draft nets says he is not very quick or athletic...what film were they watching

Im not sure. Maybe they were looking at him as a PF and in terms of switchability on the perimeter. I see his best value as a center.

KyleCleric

Seems to be able to score some in the post but can also stretch the floor.  I see he was a bench player at 21 MPG.  I think Boston should be able to find a decent player at 14.  


He actually led the team in scoring and was 5th in minutes. Florida st was a deep team, spread out it’s minutes.

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Post by worcester Thu May 30, 2019 4:53 pm

Curious wht he did not start for the Seminoles.
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Post by worcester Thu May 30, 2019 4:54 pm

That explains it.
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Post by KyleCleric Thu May 30, 2019 4:59 pm

worcester wrote:Curious wht he did not start for the Seminoles.

They started Koumadje at center. He’s huge and a sr

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Post by worcester Thu May 30, 2019 5:02 pm

Ok. What is Koumadje's projected draft rank?
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Post by kdp59 Thu May 30, 2019 5:21 pm

my updated combined mock draft rankings

all three websites have new 2 round mocks , undated in the last couple days now.

this combined ranking takes all three and averages where they were selected on each draft.

a player has to make at least TWO of the three to make this list.

I added ages, I think I got most right:

Rank--Pos-------Player----------Hgt---Age----School
1-----PF-----Zion Williamson----6-6---18-----Duke
2-----PG------Ja Morant---------6-3----19----Murray St
3-----SG------R J Barrett--------6-6----18----Duke
4-----SF------DeAndre Hunter---6-8----21---Virginia
5-----SG------Jarrett Culver------6-7---20----Texas Tech
6-----PG------Darius Garland-----6-3---19----Vanderbilt
7-----PG-------Koby White--------6-5---19----North Carolina
8-----SF------Cameron Reddish---6-7---19----Duke
9-----C---------Jaxon Hayes------6-11---18----Texas
10----C----------Bol Bol-----------7-2----19----Oregon
11----SG---Nickeil Alexander-Walker---6-5---20---Virginia Tech
12----PF-----Sekou Doumbouya---6-9---18-----Int
13----PF------Rui Hachimura-------6-8---21----Gonzaga
14----SF-------Nassir Little--------6-6----19----N. Carolina
15----SG------Keldon Johnson-----6-6----19---Kentucky
16-----C-------Goga Bitadze-------6-11---19----Int
17----SG-------Tyler Herro---------6-6----19----Kentucky
18-----C-------Bruno Fernando----6-10---20---Maryland
19----SG------Romeo Langford-----6-6---19----Indiana
20----PF-------Brandon Clarke-----6-8----22---Gonzaga
21---PF/C-----Mfiondu Kabengele---6-10--21---Florida St
22----SG-------Kevin Porter Jr------6-5----19---USC
23----PF--------P J Washington-----6-8----20----Kentucky
24---SF/SG-------KZ Okpala--------6-8----20----Stanford
25----SF--------MatisseThybulle----6-6----22----Washington
26----SF---------Cam Johnson------6-8----23----North Carolina
27-----C---------Daniel Gafford----6-10----20----Arkansas
28----SF---------Isaiah Roby--------6-8----21----Nebraska
29----PF--------Grant Williams------6-7----20----Tennessee
30----SF---------Dylan Windler------6-8----22----Belmont


31----SG-----Talen Horton-Tucker----6-4----18----Iowa St
32----PF---------Luka Samanic-------6-10---19----Int
33-----C---------Nazreon Reid--------6-10---19----LSU
34----PF---------Nicolas Claxton-----6-11----20----Georgia
35----PG----------Ty Jerome----------6-5-----21----Virginia
36----SF----------Louis King----------6-8-----20----Oregon
37----PG---------Carsen Edwards-----6-0-----21---Purdue
38----PF----------Chuma Okeke-------6-8-----20---Auburn
39----PF----------Darius Bazley-------6-9-----18
40----PG----------Jalen Lecque--------6-4-----18----NC St
41----SF----------Admiral Schofield----6-5----22----Tennessee
42----C-------------Tacko Fall----------7-6----23-----UCF
43----SF----------Ignas Brazdiekis-----6-7---20----Michigan
44----SG----------Luguentz Dort-------6-4---20----Arizona St
45----SF-----------Jaylen Hoard--------6-8---20----Wake Forest
46----C------------Moses Brown--------7-1---19----UCLA
47----PG-----------Joshua Obiesie------6-6---18----Int
48----PF----------Jalen McDaniels------6-10---21---San Diego St
49---SF/PF---------Eric Paschall--------6-7----22----Villianova
50----SF------------Kris Wilkes---------6-8----20----UCLA
51----SG-----------Adam Mokoka------6-5----20-----Int
52----SF------------Brian Bowen-------6-7----20
53----SF-----------Deividas Sirvydis---6-8----18-----Int
54----SG------------Jordan Bone-------6-2----21-----Tennessee
55----PG------------Tremont Waters---5-10---21----LSU
56----SG------------Terance Mann------6-6----22---Florida St
57----PG------------Jaylen Nowell-------6-4---21---Washington
58----SF-------------Miye Oni-----------6-6----22---Yale
59-----C-------------Jontay Porter-----6-11----19---Missouri
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