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Post by bobheckler Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:01 pm

Still early on, I know, but not TOO early since free agency begins TODAY.

Here's the current status of the Celtic roster.  This can change at any time due to players being waived or traded and will, therefore, be updated when those changes take place.

I'm not marrying these players to contracts and salary cap, I'm not that smart, really just a cut-and-paste monkey.  I'll leave that to GYSO and KDP and whomever wants to offer up their knowledge.

However, here is Spotrac's opinion:  https://www.spotrac.com/nba/boston-celtics/cap/


As of 11/20/20; 11:42am EST

Under Contract

1.  Jayson Tatum
2.  Jaylen Brown
3.  Kemba Walker
4.  Marcus Smart
5.  Daniel Theis
6.  Enes Kanter (opted in)
7.  Grant Williams
8.  Robert Williams
9.  Romeo Langford
10.  Carsen Edwards


LIKELY to be Under Contract

11.  Aaron Nesmith
12.  Payton Pritchard


Have received Qualifying Offers, so technically on the roster but may not be guaranteed

13.  Tacko Fall
14.  Tremont Waters
15.  Semi Ojelaye (non-guaranteed until Saturday, so he could be packaged and cut today or tomorrow)


Awaiting Qualifying Offers

15.  Javonte Green (to the best of my knowledge there is no news on this)


Qualifying Offers NOT offered, now Unrestricted Free Agents, who could be resigned, or sign-and-traded

Gordon Hayward
Brad Wanamaker


So IF Danny QOs Green we'd have 15, not including any 2-way players.  If there is a sign-and-trade for Gordon then a player or players will be incoming (a possibility of some being expiring, non-guaranteed contracts but, for now, let's assume they are not).


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Post by worcester Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:06 pm

Even though Carsen was very disappointing last year, he does have the ability to light it up from beyond the arc. Even in G League he stunk. I don't know what happened to him, but if he came out of his funk, he could be a player. He's 3-4" taller than IT was. Obviously this is make or break time for him.
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Post by KyleCleric Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:39 pm

I think Green is under contract with an contract that isn’t guaranteed

Bane deal still hasn’t happened

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Post by kdp59 Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:59 pm

wouldn't Green be #16?

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Post by bobheckler Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:09 pm

kdp59 wrote:wouldn't Green be #16?



kdp,

If Kyle's claim is accurate he would be.  I believe Green's contract is non-guaranteed.  I don't know WHEN it becomes guaranteed. WHEN it becomes guaranteed he is #16.


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Post by KyleCleric Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:11 pm

It’s guaranteed at that 10 day contract deadline, in season

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Post by bobheckler Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:55 pm

As of 11/20/20; 5:52pm EST


Under Contract

1.  Jayson Tatum
2.  Jaylen Brown
3.  Kemba Walker
4.  Marcus Smart
5.  Daniel Theis
6.  Grant Williams
7.  Robert Williams
8.  Romeo Langford
9.  Carsen Edwards


LIKELY to be Under Contract

10.  Aaron Nesmith
11.  Payton Pritchard


Have received Qualifying Offers, so technically on the roster but may not be guaranteed

12.  Tacko Fall
13.  Tremont Waters
14.  Semi Ojelaye (non-guaranteed until Saturday, so he could be packaged and cut today or tomorrow)


Awaiting Qualifying Offers

15.  Javonte Green (to the best of my knowledge there is no news on this)


Qualifying Offers NOT offered, now Unrestricted Free Agents, who could be resigned, or sign-and-traded

Gordon Hayward
Brad Wanamaker


So IF Danny QOs Green we'd have 15, not including any 2-way players.  If there is a sign-and-trade for Gordon then a player or players will be incoming (a possibility of some being expiring, non-guaranteed contracts but, for now, let's assume they are not).


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Post by KyleCleric Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:34 am

Per Keith Smith’s Twitter, guarantee date is today for Theis and Ojeleye, and 2/27/21 for Green

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Post by bobheckler Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:53 pm

bobheckler wrote:As of 11/20/20; 5:52pm EST


Under Contract

1.  Jayson Tatum
2.  Jaylen Brown
3.  Kemba Walker
4.  Marcus Smart
5.  Daniel Theis
6.  Grant Williams
7.  Robert Williams
8.  Romeo Langford
9.  Carsen Edwards


LIKELY to be Under Contract

10.  Aaron Nesmith
11.  Payton Pritchard


Have received Qualifying Offers, so technically on the roster but may not be guaranteed

12.  Tacko Fall
13.  Tremont Waters
14.  Semi Ojelaye (non-guaranteed until Saturday, so he could be packaged and cut today or tomorrow)


Awaiting Qualifying Offers

15.  Javonte Green (to the best of my knowledge there is no news on this)


Qualifying Offers NOT offered, now Unrestricted Free Agents, who could be resigned, or sign-and-traded

Gordon Hayward
Brad Wanamaker


So IF Danny QOs Green we'd have 15, not including any 2-way players.  If there is a sign-and-trade for Gordon then a player or players will be incoming (a possibility of some being expiring, non-guaranteed contracts but, for now, let's assume they are not).


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Post by kdp59 Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:38 pm

replace Green with a MLE vet (Thompson, Baynes, Whiteside)

replace Edwards with Wanamaker under the Bi-annual exception.

and I'd be good.

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Post by worcester Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:52 pm

Good strategy kdp. Better than Danny has exhibited so far. But what about Serge?
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Post by bobheckler Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:22 pm

Brian Robb @BrianTRobb
about 7 minutes ago
How young is the Celtics bench at the moment? Currently, the most experienced player out of eight reserves under contract is Semi Ojeleye (three-year veteran).


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Post by dboss Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:48 pm

kdp59 wrote:replace Green with a MLE vet (Thompson, Baynes, Whiteside)

replace Edwards with Wanamaker under the Bi-annual exception.

and I'd be good.


Edwards does have a guaranteed contract for 2 more years at $1.5 and then $1.8 million and then in year 4 Boston has a $1.95 million team option.
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Post by kdp59 Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:05 pm

dboss wrote:
kdp59 wrote:replace Green with a MLE vet (Thompson, Baynes, Whiteside)

replace Edwards with Wanamaker under the Bi-annual exception.

and I'd be good.


Edwards does have a guaranteed contract for 2 more years at $1.5 and then $1.8 million and then in year 4 Boston has a $1.95 million team option.  


yea I know they'll have to eat his deal, under the tax line and they can do it.


Wanny signed at GS now
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Post by bobheckler Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:18 pm

As of 11/20/20; 8:17pm EST


Under Contract

1.  Jayson Tatum
2.  Jaylen Brown
3.  Kemba Walker
4.  Marcus Smart
5.  Daniel Theis
6.  Grant Williams
7.  Robert Williams
8.  Romeo Langford
9.  Carsen Edwards
10.  Tristan Thompson
11.  Semi Ojelaye (guaranteed Saturday)


LIKELY to be Under Contract

12.  Aaron Nesmith
13.  Payton Pritchard


Have received Qualifying Offers, so technically on the roster but may not be guaranteed

14.  Tacko Fall
15.  Tremont Waters



Awaiting Qualifying Offers

16.  Javonte Green (to the best of my knowledge there is no news on this)


Qualifying Offers NOT offered, now Unrestricted Free Agents, who could be resigned, or sign-and-traded

Gordon Hayward
Brad Wanamaker



So IF Danny QOs Green we'd have 16, not including any 2-way players.


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Post by kdp59 Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:23 pm

Reggie Jackson might be a nice pickup at that Bi_annual exception.

S. Napier also worth a look or even J. Teague IF Ainge feels we need a vet BU PG.
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Post by worcester Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:27 pm

Danny really mismanaged this off season. Letting Wanny go for zero was foolish.
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Post by dboss Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:34 pm

BobH you stated that:

Have received Qualifying Offers, so technically on the roster but may not be guaranteed

14. Tacko Fall
15. Tremont Waters

I believe if they sign their QO it would be guaranteed and if they do not they become restricted FA's giving Boston the right to match any offer
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Post by dboss Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:36 pm

worcester wrote:Danny really mismanaged this off season. Letting Wanny go for zero was foolish.

GS signed him for only $2.5 million. Seems to me he was at least worth that.

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Post by bobheckler Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:10 pm

As of 11/20/20; 9:07pm EST


Under Contract

1.  Jayson Tatum
2.  Jaylen Brown
3.  Kemba Walker
4.  Marcus Smart
5.  Daniel Theis
6.  Grant Williams
7.  Robert Williams
8.  Romeo Langford
9.  Carsen Edwards
10.  Tristan Thompson
11.  Semi Ojelaye (guaranteed Saturday)
12.  Jeff Teague


LIKELY to be Under Contract


13.  Aaron Nesmith
14.  Payton Pritchard


Have received Qualifying Offers, so technically on the roster but may not be guaranteed

15.  Tacko Fall
16.  Tremont Waters



Awaiting Qualifying Offers

17.  Javonte Green (to the best of my knowledge there is no news on this)


Qualifying Offers NOT offered, now Unrestricted Free Agents, who could be resigned, or sign-and-traded

Gordon Hayward
Brad Wanamaker



So IF Danny QOs Green we'd have 17, not including any 2-way players.


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Post by NYCelt Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:15 pm

bobheckler wrote:As of 11/20/20; 9:07pm EST


Under Contract

1.  Jayson Tatum
2.  Jaylen Brown
3.  Kemba Walker
4.  Marcus Smart
5.  Daniel Theis
6.  Grant Williams
7.  Robert Williams
8.  Romeo Langford
9.  Carsen Edwards
10.  Tristan Thompson
11.  Semi Ojelaye (guaranteed Saturday)
12.  Jeff Teague


LIKELY to be Under Contract


13.  Aaron Nesmith
14.  Payton Pritchard


Have received Qualifying Offers, so technically on the roster but may not be guaranteed

15.  Tacko Fall
16.  Tremont Waters



Awaiting Qualifying Offers

17.  Javonte Green (to the best of my knowledge there is no news on this)


Qualifying Offers NOT offered, now Unrestricted Free Agents, who could be resigned, or sign-and-traded

Gordon Hayward
Brad Wanamaker



So IF Danny QOs Green we'd have 17, not including any 2-way players.


Bob

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Post by RosalieTCeltics Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:59 pm

You think they will try to keep Green? They kept Semi? That is a surprise
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Post by RosalieTCeltics Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:00 pm

I can remember when Jeff Teague was with Atlanta and killed us. That was a while ago, I hope he still has that instinct
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Post by dboss Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:09 pm

RosalieTCeltics wrote:You think they will try to keep Green?  They kept Semi? That is a surprise

Green is likely gone. He has a non guaranteed deal. There are no more roster spaces available.

Also I should mention that 2-way contracts do not count against the CAP (tremont and tacko)
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Post by sinus007 Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:09 pm

Hi,
It looks like Danny is done dealing. For now, at least.
I must say it's not the worst possible outcome: TT+Teague for GH.
A lot of people were ready to kill him for missing on Pacers trade, but I'm sure that many would argue that the above mentioned pair is on par with Turner+McDermott. We'll find out in a month.

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