Buyout/ Trade Deadline Approaching

The more I see from the unsubstantiated stories the more I’m placing my bet that the Celtics’ roster will stand as is.

No trades and TPEs expire as they most often do.

You’re looking at the playoff roster now. If everyone stays healthy, it might just be good enough.

NYCelt wrote:The more I see from the unsubstantiated stories the more I’m placing my bet that the Celtics’ roster will stand as is.

No trades and TPEs expire as they most often do.

You’re looking at the playoff roster now. If everyone stays healthy, it might just be good enough.

+1

NYCelt wrote:The more I see from the unsubstantiated stories the more I’m placing my bet that the Celtics’ roster will stand as is.

No trades and TPEs expire as they most often do.

You’re looking at the playoff roster now. If everyone stays healthy, it might just be good enough.

I wouldn’t mind a better first wing off the bench than Hauser

NYCelt wrote:The more I see from the unsubstantiated stories the more I’m placing my bet that the Celtics’ roster will stand as is.

No trades and TPEs expire as they most often do.

You’re looking at the playoff roster now. If everyone stays healthy, it might just be good enough.

I agree, we won't see any roster filling action before the trade deadline. I've read that they may add to the roster later on during the buyout period. They can use the injured player exception and outbid any normal vet min contract amount. The player would be "for the regular season", which leads me to believe our playoff roster is pretty much set.

I did not know that the disable player exception was only for the regular season.

Having an open roster spot is a nice option. We could also use a veteran minimum exception to add a player and I think that they would be playoff eligible.

The Wizards have traded Rui Hachimura to the Lakers for Kendrick Nunn and three 2nd round picks.

It shores the Laker front court up until AD comes back and can start in his place when he's out, which is more and more often.


Bob


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That was a good move by the Lakers, that kid is a good player, he will be a plus to their team I agree that I do not see the Celtics making a move, let's just hope we can get everyone back on the court and get a good streak of wins heading to the finish line. Abby kept saying it was "all good" with Brogden, so his wife must be having a baby the way I look at it. Smart? he may be out for a couple of more weeks. Eddiie House commented last night that he was talking to Smart and took a look at his ankle and still could not see the bone. doesn't sound too good to me Last night's loss was squarely on Joe's shoulders. He has to learn about time outs and what they are used for. Tatum looked right at him and he told him to just keep going. Sorry Joe if ever there was a time out that should have been called it was then. I know Tatum made a bad pass, but the coach is ending games with timeouts on the books, give the guys a blow every now and then!!!!!! one more thing, will someone please tell Grant to stop yapping at the ref's he is killing us

Latest rumor du jour is that the Celtics have interest in Willy Hernangomez, Juancho's older brother, in Nwalins,  per Brian Robb.  He opines that one 2nd round pick won't be enough unless it's better than #40 but that two 2nd round pick is too much.

The trade deadline is exactly two weeks from when you wake up and read this. Expect the rumor mongering to ramp ip over the next 14 days.


Bob


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Spurs bloggers are claiming Brad made an offer for Poetl.

Spurs currently have our 1st round pick in 2028 from the Derrick White trade.  It is #1 pick protected.   The offer,  ALLEGEDLY,  is to remove the protection from that pick.

Poetl may only be a partial year rental.  He's a starting center with no outside game, which sounds a lot like RWILL.   TWO of them on the floor starting would clog the paint.   But for that price I would DEFINITELY do the deal.  Poetl is a major upgrade over either Kornet or Griffin at back up center and could easily start if/when RWILL is resting or injured.  Then we need another scoring wing to back up Tatum and there's #18.


Bob


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No Pritchard in the deal? I find that hard to believe. I really would prefer to keep the kid here, there have been so many injuries, he is playing well, and has the confidence of his coach. Not so sure this is good for us

bobheckler wrote:Spurs bloggers are claiming Brad made an offer for Poetl.

Spurs currently have our 1st round pick in 2028 from the Derrick White trade.  It is #1 pick protected.   The offer,  ALLEGEDLY,  is to remove the protection from that pick.

Poetl may only be a partial year rental.  He's a starting center with no outside game, which sounds a lot like RWILL.   TWO of them on the floor starting would clog the paint.   But for that price I would DEFINITELY do the deal.  Poetl is a major upgrade over either Kornet or Griffin at back up center and could easily start if/when RWILL is resting or injured.  Then we need another scoring wing to back up Tatum and there's #18.


Bob


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Part of the deal for White was that the Spurs could swap picks with Boston in 2028, unless the C's have the number one pick. I think the supposed Poetl offer not only removes the top 1 protection, but also removes the swap; San Antonio gets Boston's 2028 pick unprotected and keeps their own pick. Simply removing the number one protection doesn't seem enough for Poetl.

I am the destroyer.

I come to destroy all myths, legends, dreams and other curiosities.

When Brad signed Gallinari,  the BIG Bright RED injury flag was waving furiously.   Brad decided to take on the risk.  He had dreams of Gallo knocking down 3 point shots.  

In the meantime the guy that was also available and has a proven track record was Boston's own Bruce Brown, a 26 year old wing player that is averaging 11.3  PPG for Denver to go along with 4.2 rebounds and 3.6 assists.  He also is shooting 39% from deep and 49% on all FGA.  He runs the floor, has big hops and his 2 year deal was identical to the one Brad gave to Gallinari.

If Brad is still dreaming that Gallo will somehow make it back in time to help us come playoff time, it would be another mistake.

The chatter about trading for Poetl would require moving some players.  For example a package of Grant, Payton and Jackson would work.  A package of Gallinari and Jackson would also work.

I do not see a 3-1 trade as being viable but a 2-1 would still leave us with an open roster spot and a chance to add one more player.

I am definitely not in favor of moving Grant and Payton.

Overall I do not think that adding Poetl would be a good move. He can rebound the basketball and he can score in the halfcourt.  He cannot shoot the 3 and is a poor FT shooter as well.  He cannot play in a switch everything defensive scheme and he is not particularly quick in getting up and down the floor.  His 118.9 defensive rating is well outside an acceptable range.

The bottom line is right in front of us.  Once Gallo went down the shooting that he may have provided has not been replaced.  Therefore, if the Celtics are going to make a trade or add a player, shooting should be priority #1.

Any player that joins us will need to get adjusted to the way that the Celtics play at both ends and they would need a role on the team.  That player is unlikely to have a significant role during the playoffs because we are going to see a shortened rotation.  

What are we doing, single handedly rebuilding San Antonio with our young players. I just do not see this happening. Still trying to figure out what the heck Jackson is doing on this team, he is useless. I certainly think if he was a throw in he would be cut and be in the G League. He may have been good in college, but he is nothing in the pros. We are one injury away from needing Pritchard and Grant, well I can't quite figure out what they are going to do with him, One night he is so damn good, then disappears and yaps at the refs all night. He is going to find himself on the outside looking in if he is not careful

USA TODAY Sports
Report: Celtics seen as unlikely to deal for San Antonio Spurs big man Jakob Poeltl
Thu, January 26, 2023 at 1:52 PM EST

RosalieTCeltics wrote:What are we doing, single handedly rebuilding San Antonio with our young players.  I just do not see this happening.  Still trying to figure out what the heck Jackson is doing on this team, he is useless.  I certainly think if he was a throw in he would be cut and be in the G League.  He may have been good in college, but he is nothing in the pros.  We are one injury away from needing Pritchard and Grant, well I can't quite figure out what they are going to do with him,  One night he is so damn good, then disappears and yaps at the refs all night.  He is going to find himself on the outside looking in if he is not careful

Rosalie

We have a terrific team with what we have. Maybe Brad tweaks it. Jackson seems like a wasted roster spot.

I guess we are just a few weeks out from the trade deadline and the buyout market should be interesting.

I think we have a good opportunity to add a player because playing for a real contender would be great for them.

https://heavy.com/sports/boston-celtics/wyc-grousbeck-issues-mandate-brad-stevens-trade/



Celtics Owner Issues Mandate To Brad Stevens Ahead Of Trade Deadline


By Adam Taylor
Updated Jan 30, 2023 at 12:07pm



With the February 9 trade deadline now just over a week away, Boston Celtics fans will be waiting anxiously to see if their team makes a move to improve their current roster.

According to Wyc Grousbeck, who was speaking during an interview with NBC Sports Boston, he has informed Brad Stevens that he has the full backing to make any moves he deems necessary to push the Celtics toward their 18th franchise championship.




“The conversation that I had with Brad is: It’s about this year. It’s not about this will pay dividends in three years, or this will do this next year…It is this year. Muscle up, and let’s go get the job done. That’s his instructions, and that’s what we’re going to try to do. If there’s anything to do, we’ll do it. If not, we love this team. We’re top of the league right now,” Grousbeck said.

The Celtics have been the best team in the NBA for almost the entire season and have been producing some stellar basketball on both ends of the floor. However, there is always room for improvement, so it will be interesting to see if Boston decides to make a move before the deadline closes on February 9.


Celtics Continue To Hold Interest In Jakob Poeltl


According to a January 30 report by The Athletic’s Shams Charania, the Celtics continue to hold interest in impressive big man Jakob Poeltl, who currently plays his basketball for the San Antonio Spurs.

“Several teams are increasing their pursuit of Spurs center Jakob Poeltl, and it appears a move to the Eastern Conference could be possible ahead of the deadline. The Raptors and Celtics are among the teams expressing interest in Poeltl, sources say. The 27-year-old will be arguably the top unrestricted free agent big man in July,” Charania wrote.

Poeltl is set to become an unrestricted free agent at the end of the current season, and as such, it appears unlikely that Boston would be willing to part with the necessary assets to acquire a player who would likely be a sixth-month rental due to the interest he will garner during the 2023 free agency period.


Naz Reid Floated As Potential Celtics Target

Another big man that the Celtics continue to find themselves linked to is Minnesota Timberwolves big man Naz Reid. In a January 30 article, Bleacher Report’s Dan Favale proposed a trade that could make sense for both teams if they wanted to get a deal across the line.

The trade proposal looks like this:

Celtics Get: Naz Reid

Timberwolves Get: Justin Jackson, Portland’s 2023 second-round pick, San Antonio’s 2024 second-round pick


“Going after him is more than short-term insurance. Having his Bird Rights will come in handy if Grant Williams gets a huge offer sheet Boston isn’t inclined to match during restricted free agency,” Favale reasoned.

Regardless of whether the Celtics choose to make a move at the deadline or not, it’s clear that their current roster is more than capable of challenging for the NBA championship this season. However, injury concerns around Robert Williams, Malcolm Brogdon, Marcus Smart, and Jaylen Brown could be enough reason for Stevens to make a slight tweak to the team’s bench unit.


Bob
MY NOTE:  I would do that deal for Naz Reid in a NY second.  Jackson and 2 seconds?  Second round picks very rarely make the NBA and Jackson is useless.  Whatever Reid is worth he's worth more than nothing and that's what we'd be giving up to get him.


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From an article I read yesterday, Payton Pritchard has made it clear he wants to be traded to a team who will use his services more. He sounds like a kid who has one foot out the door. Does Brad make a deal to make him happy or hold on for at least this year. Unless there is something he can do to make the team better, I believe Pritchard is here for the short haul. By going public the way he has, he is one unhappy camper…period.

bobheckler wrote:https://heavy.com/sports/boston-celtics/wyc-grousbeck-issues-mandate-brad-stevens-trade/



Celtics Owner Issues Mandate To Brad Stevens Ahead Of Trade Deadline


By Adam Taylor
Updated Jan 30, 2023 at 12:07pm



With the February 9 trade deadline now just over a week away, Boston Celtics fans will be waiting anxiously to see if their team makes a move to improve their current roster.

According to Wyc Grousbeck, who was speaking during an interview with NBC Sports Boston, he has informed Brad Stevens that he has the full backing to make any moves he deems necessary to push the Celtics toward their 18th franchise championship.




“The conversation that I had with Brad is: It’s about this year. It’s not about this will pay dividends in three years, or this will do this next year…It is this year. Muscle up, and let’s go get the job done. That’s his instructions, and that’s what we’re going to try to do. If there’s anything to do, we’ll do it. If not, we love this team. We’re top of the league right now,” Grousbeck said.

The Celtics have been the best team in the NBA for almost the entire season and have been producing some stellar basketball on both ends of the floor. However, there is always room for improvement, so it will be interesting to see if Boston decides to make a move before the deadline closes on February 9.


Celtics Continue To Hold Interest In Jakob Poeltl


According to a January 30 report by The Athletic’s Shams Charania, the Celtics continue to hold interest in impressive big man Jakob Poeltl, who currently plays his basketball for the San Antonio Spurs.

“Several teams are increasing their pursuit of Spurs center Jakob Poeltl, and it appears a move to the Eastern Conference could be possible ahead of the deadline. The Raptors and Celtics are among the teams expressing interest in Poeltl, sources say. The 27-year-old will be arguably the top unrestricted free agent big man in July,” Charania wrote.

Poeltl is set to become an unrestricted free agent at the end of the current season, and as such, it appears unlikely that Boston would be willing to part with the necessary assets to acquire a player who would likely be a sixth-month rental due to the interest he will garner during the 2023 free agency period.


Naz Reid Floated As Potential Celtics Target

Another big man that the Celtics continue to find themselves linked to is Minnesota Timberwolves big man Naz Reid. In a January 30 article, Bleacher Report’s Dan Favale proposed a trade that could make sense for both teams if they wanted to get a deal across the line.

The trade proposal looks like this:

Celtics Get: Naz Reid

Timberwolves Get: Justin Jackson, Portland’s 2023 second-round pick, San Antonio’s 2024 second-round pick


“Going after him is more than short-term insurance. Having his Bird Rights will come in handy if Grant Williams gets a huge offer sheet Boston isn’t inclined to match during restricted free agency,” Favale reasoned.

Regardless of whether the Celtics choose to make a move at the deadline or not, it’s clear that their current roster is more than capable of challenging for the NBA championship this season. However, injury concerns around Robert Williams, Malcolm Brogdon, Marcus Smart, and Jaylen Brown could be enough reason for Stevens to make a slight tweak to the team’s bench unit.


Bob
MY NOTE:  I would do that deal for Naz Reid in a NY second.  Jackson and 2 seconds?  Second round picks very rarely make the NBA and Jackson is useless.  Whatever Reid is worth he's worth more than nothing and that's what we'd be giving up to get him.


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I want Naz Reid too, but why would Timberwolves do that deal? If I’m the Timberwolves I need Pritch or GWill and a second round pick….

gyso wrote:

NYCelt wrote:The more I see from the unsubstantiated stories the more I’m placing my bet that the Celtics’ roster will stand as is.

No trades and TPEs expire as they most often do.

You’re looking at the playoff roster now. If everyone stays healthy, it might just be good enough.

I agree, we won't see any roster filling action before the trade deadline.  I've read that they may add to the roster later on during the buyout period.  They can use the injured player exception and outbid any normal vet min contract amount.  The player would be "for the regular season", which leads me to believe our playoff roster is pretty much set.

gyso

I am trying to find something about the DPE. I cannot find anything that specifies the player can only be used for the regular season. I have seen reference to 'the remainder of the season' but that would appear to encompass both the regular season games and the playoffs.

cowens/oldschool wrote:

bobheckler wrote:https://heavy.com/sports/boston-celtics/wyc-grousbeck-issues-mandate-brad-stevens-trade/



Celtics Owner Issues Mandate To Brad Stevens Ahead Of Trade Deadline


By Adam Taylor
Updated Jan 30, 2023 at 12:07pm



With the February 9 trade deadline now just over a week away, Boston Celtics fans will be waiting anxiously to see if their team makes a move to improve their current roster.

According to Wyc Grousbeck, who was speaking during an interview with NBC Sports Boston, he has informed Brad Stevens that he has the full backing to make any moves he deems necessary to push the Celtics toward their 18th franchise championship.




“The conversation that I had with Brad is: It’s about this year. It’s not about this will pay dividends in three years, or this will do this next year…It is this year. Muscle up, and let’s go get the job done. That’s his instructions, and that’s what we’re going to try to do. If there’s anything to do, we’ll do it. If not, we love this team. We’re top of the league right now,” Grousbeck said.

The Celtics have been the best team in the NBA for almost the entire season and have been producing some stellar basketball on both ends of the floor. However, there is always room for improvement, so it will be interesting to see if Boston decides to make a move before the deadline closes on February 9.


Celtics Continue To Hold Interest In Jakob Poeltl


According to a January 30 report by The Athletic’s Shams Charania, the Celtics continue to hold interest in impressive big man Jakob Poeltl, who currently plays his basketball for the San Antonio Spurs.

“Several teams are increasing their pursuit of Spurs center Jakob Poeltl, and it appears a move to the Eastern Conference could be possible ahead of the deadline. The Raptors and Celtics are among the teams expressing interest in Poeltl, sources say. The 27-year-old will be arguably the top unrestricted free agent big man in July,” Charania wrote.

Poeltl is set to become an unrestricted free agent at the end of the current season, and as such, it appears unlikely that Boston would be willing to part with the necessary assets to acquire a player who would likely be a sixth-month rental due to the interest he will garner during the 2023 free agency period.


Naz Reid Floated As Potential Celtics Target

Another big man that the Celtics continue to find themselves linked to is Minnesota Timberwolves big man Naz Reid. In a January 30 article, Bleacher Report’s Dan Favale proposed a trade that could make sense for both teams if they wanted to get a deal across the line.

The trade proposal looks like this:

Celtics Get: Naz Reid

Timberwolves Get: Justin Jackson, Portland’s 2023 second-round pick, San Antonio’s 2024 second-round pick


“Going after him is more than short-term insurance. Having his Bird Rights will come in handy if Grant Williams gets a huge offer sheet Boston isn’t inclined to match during restricted free agency,” Favale reasoned.

Regardless of whether the Celtics choose to make a move at the deadline or not, it’s clear that their current roster is more than capable of challenging for the NBA championship this season. However, injury concerns around Robert Williams, Malcolm Brogdon, Marcus Smart, and Jaylen Brown could be enough reason for Stevens to make a slight tweak to the team’s bench unit.


Bob
MY NOTE:  I would do that deal for Naz Reid in a NY second.  Jackson and 2 seconds?  Second round picks very rarely make the NBA and Jackson is useless.  Whatever Reid is worth he's worth more than nothing and that's what we'd be giving up to get him.


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I want Naz Reid too, but why would Timberwolves do that deal? If I’m the Timberwolves I need Pritch or GWill and a second round pick….

Cow

Naz will be an UFA after this year. He makes $1.93 million. PP, Jackson and Kornet work.

G Will does not work and neither does Hauser.

We could use a potion of the TPE and just send out 2 2nd rounders. Boston does not have to trade anyone to add a player unless they are concerned about the increase in the luxury tax this season.

With the T'wovles salary, they may not be looking to resign Naz. Russell sill has a year remaining plus Rudy and KAT make big money and Anthony Edwards big money deal is right around the corner.

dboss wrote:

gyso wrote:

NYCelt wrote:The more I see from the unsubstantiated stories the more I’m placing my bet that the Celtics’ roster will stand as is.

No trades and TPEs expire as they most often do.

You’re looking at the playoff roster now. If everyone stays healthy, it might just be good enough.

I agree, we won't see any roster filling action before the trade deadline.  I've read that they may add to the roster later on during the buyout period.  They can use the injured player exception and outbid any normal vet min contract amount.  The player would be "for the regular season", which leads me to believe our playoff roster is pretty much set.

gyso

I am trying to find something about the DPE.  I cannot find anything that specifies the player can only be used for the regular season.  I have seen reference to 'the remainder of the season' but that would appear to encompass both the regular season games and the playoffs.

dboss,

The quote came from someone in the Celtics office and NOT a part of a DPE rule. That's what led me to my conclusion.

Sorry for sending you on a snipe hunt.

As far as Wyc talking to the press and saying that Brad has his backing to spend whatever . . .

Why don't you just STFU and let Brad do his job!!!

Now other teams know that "the sky's the limit" and they can try to up the ante.

Thanks gyso

I read that there are 11 teams with an open roster spot.

This was current as of 12/30/22

Atlanta Hawks
Charlotte Hornets
Cleveland Cavaliers
Golden State Warriors
Los Angeles Clippers
Los Angeles Lakers
Miami Heat
Philadelphia 76ers
Phoenix Suns
Portland Trail Blazers
Toronto Raptors

I figure that Charlotte, LAL and Portland will not be looking to add anything but LAL could possibly do something if they can project into the 7-10 playin round.

It seems like there will be competition to add a guy.

The Celtics are the only team with a DPE.

I do not think that Brad will give away the store. The big question is about a short term rental vs a long term lease. If they target a guy that they want to retain next season they should be willing to give up a little more.

There are a couple of G Leaguers that have played extremely well for Maine. Kabengale being one of them The rookie has played well for Maine also, he is a bit on the wild side, the second coming of Nesmith! only he is not known as a shooter. Can either of these guys or anyone else for that matter join us and be playoff eligible? The other player is, and I know I am going to screw up his name, but ..Luca S.....something like that, you know how I am with names, Old age setting in!!!!!!! anyway, you are right, time to sit back and let Brad do his job. I do not believe it was a mandate that Wyc set down, he is all in, especially after losing that series last year. Do you blame him???

gyso wrote:As far as Wyc talking to the press and saying that Brad has his backing to spend whatever . . .

Why don't you just STFU and let Brad do his job!!!

Now other teams know that "the sky's the limit" and they can try to up the ante.

Because he’s probably lying…